***OFFICIAL 2012 KC Chiefs Training Camp Thread***

[Kylo Ren]

Discuss everything Chiefs / training camp related here......

Enjoy!










Mark Cassell sucks!

[BossChief]

Did the video show his 10 straight completions that included 3 tds?

As far as politics go, FormerDB tweeted a week or so ago that he was surprised to hear the massive difference between what the media said in print as opposed to what was said in normal conversation behind closed doors about Stanzi.

He chalked it up to politics.

IMO, he is easily the most reputable guy that has been at camp and I've said that way before he made his comments backing Stanzi.

Schefter also had a bit on tv around the same time on how high the Chiefs are on Stanzi behind closed doors.

I have faith in the kid...I just hope he gets his chance at one point.

At one point = game 6

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Did the video show his 10 straight completions that included 3 tds?

As far as politics go, FormerDB tweeted a week or so ago that he was surprised to hear the massive difference between what the media said in print as opposed to what was said in normal conversation behind closed doors about Stanzi.

Schefter also had a bit on tv around the same time on how high the Chiefs are on Stanzi behind closed doors.

I have faith in the kid...I just hope he gets his chance at one point.

At one point = game 6

I haven't heard a single report from any of the radio guys saying that Stanzi looks like anything other than a #3. Trust me, I wish I were hearing something different.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Well, we have once. Herm thought Croyle could be the guy.

Thanks for reminding me of that.

I should have rephrased that then, first round QB. & I call it the Blackledge curse. It's been over 30 years of not picking a first round QB to be considered to be our guy.

[petegz28]

Stanzi reportedly didnt look good at all. Ive only seen one tweet talking about 10 straight completions. Everything else ive read said he was not good and threw a couple picks

[TRR]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Did the video show his 10 straight completions that included 3 tds?

As far as politics go, FormerDB tweeted a week or so ago that he was surprised to hear the massive difference between what the media said in print as opposed to what was said in normal conversation behind closed doors about Stanzi.

He chalked it up to politics.

IMO, he is easily the most reputable guy that has been at camp and I've said that way before he made his comments backing Stanzi.

Schefter also had a bit on tv around the same time on how high the Chiefs are on Stanzi behind closed doors.

I have faith in the kid...I just hope he gets his chance at one point.

At one point = game 6

From the time I spent at camp, Stanzi looked like a third string QB to me. I posted previously that I watched every college game he ever played at IA, many of them being live, and never was a fan of his. Now you talk to some IA fans, and they love the guy. You talk to others, and they couldn't wait for his career to be over. That kind of sums him up. He is a high risk-high reward player IMO that could win some games for you but could lose some games for you as well.

I always thought Ricky was surrounded by great talent as well. The Iowa teams he played on were very strong offensively (and defensively) and made up for a lot of his mental errors along the way. He did cut down on his mental errors his senior year however.

[petegz28]

Fyi, Cassel was our only qb to score in 11-11

Actually it was the only score for either team

[Hammock Parties]

Link plz, must GIF

[BossChief]

McNutt went in the sixth and Moeaki went in the late third.

Besides some linemen, what other talent was he surrounded with?

If he sucks in preseason, I'll cool off on him till next year.

I don't give up easily on an argument or my stances on players or coaches.

Never have.

I base all of my opinions on a lot of information and I think Stanzi will be pretty good.

He has a much higher ceiling than Cassel, there is no question about that.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Link plz, must GIF

To what?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Fyi, Cassel was our only qb to score in 11-11

Actually it was the only score for either team

52-yarder? If so, that's encouraging.

Still, TC isn't anything to get too worked up about. Team shits the bed in PS game three, and I'll say a few things.

[MoreLemonPledge]

HEY WHAT DID THE LINEBACKER EAT FOR DINNER LAST NIGHT?






RBs.

GET IT, LIKE ARBY'S THE RESTAURANT.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

52-yarder? If so, that's encouraging.

Still, TC isn't anything to get too worked up about. Team shits the bed in PS game three, and I'll say a few things.

The 52 yarder was a fg. The score Looney was talking about was a td to baldwin

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Link?

LINK!!!!

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The 52 yarder was a fg. The score Looney was talking about was a td to baldwin

My bad. Glossed over the fact that was a TD throw, apparently. Thought the team recorded only a FG.

[Tribal Warfare]

Chiefs-Cardinals Training Camp Breakdown

I don't have all the photo/video highlights or grand synopsis of today's events at KC Chiefs training camp, but I will try to briefly share what I saw, what I liked, what I didn't, and what I came away with after watching the Cardinals against the Chiefs.

QBs: Matt Cassel was not nearly as polished today as he looked last week when I attended. He threw at least one INT that I saw (it was the result of a pass thrown behind the receiver and the ball being tipped up for an opposing defender to nab in the end zone), and during one drill, he actually took a sack thanks to the tight coverage of the AZ secondary. I was not impressed today with Matt Cassel.

*Note: For everyone that bashes Cassel, people were screaming for him after practice to sign autographs. He was like a celebrity after practice. I thought that was very interesting considering all the hate he gets from the media and the fans.

Ricky Stanzi had a pretty decent day today. I liked what I saw for the most part. In my opinion Cassel was still better, but I did not see any INTs from Stanzi today, and he was able to complete most of his mid to low range passes with accuracy and zip.

Brady Quinn? He looked like Brady Quinn. He wasn't awful, but he wasn't good.

Trick-Shot-Tanney? That's all I have on him. He can throw a football. Very raw player, but I think he has some upside. Practice squad would be a good place for him.



RBs: Let's get two things cleared up right away. Peyton Hillis was in beast-mode today and I will be beyond shocked if Shaun Draughn does not make this team as the 3rd RB. Draughn is electric. Behind this OL he could easily become a 1,000 yard rusher annually if he plays the way he did today. Great vision, excellent cuts, he looked sharp.

Hillis on the other hand? If we ever wanted a powerback boy have we got one. Hillis tore through a quickly closing hole and laid a pad popping thunp that leveled one of AZ's defenders (I didn't see who), as he accelerated into the second level for a nice gain of 8-10. In response, one of AZ's DB's hit him a play later as Hillis was stumbling and knocked him to the ground.

*One thing to note, Charles looks great while McCluster is seeing more time at WR.

WRs: The highlight of this camp without a doubt is Jon Baldwin. He made AZ's secondary look stupid. Today was another string of highlight reel worthy plays with the most memorable being a pass to the end zone, where he turned to his right shoulder to look back and made a spectacular one armed catch (armed, it was weird, the ball just sank into his hand and forearm for a perfect cradle) over the defender and fell inbounds for the TD. It got the blood pumping.

Steve Breaston looked good, made some great cuts but also had a couple of drops. He had some nice back of the end zone catches today.

Josh Bellamy, #8. Keep an eye on this guy because he looked great today. I really enjoyed watching him work and while he's not perfect and had a couple of drops, he caught most everything thrown his way and looked very good while doing it. I hope he makes this team. He looks like he can play in this league.

Dexter McCluster. The guy you either love or hate seems to be sending a message to the masses that he can play. Outside of Baldwin, Dex has been the best WR on the roster. He caught everything and his cuts after the catch were so crisp and quick he was like a hummingbird floating through the defense. Terrible analogy but you get the drfit, he was killing it out there today!

Devon Wylie isn't just fast, he's REALLY fast! I didn't see a lot of him my first time at camp, but today I watched him quite a bit and wow, all the reports are true. The guy flat out runs like a gazelle. Crazy fast. His hands are a bit suspect from time to time, but when the ball is in hand watch out. His cuts along the sideline are so sharp I don't know how its physically possible. Very awesome to watch.

Offensive Line: I will be completely honest, I didn't pay much attention here. I was watching the passes more and preoccupied with updating the feed on AP, so I can't say too much here. What I will say is that the left side of the line is where Draughn had his superb run and the hole he ran through wasn't a hole, the line opened a crater. On some of the runs right before I walked to the other field, we did appear to be struggling to get much push and AZ's D looked to be containing the run pretty well after Hillis' and Draughn' big plays. Not sure what to take away from that.

Colquitt: Dustin had a hell of a day with a booming punt that seemed to go the entire length of the field. Monster kick. After that he worked the sidelines beautifully with tight spiraling balls that flopped out of bounds. He looked impressive.

Defense: I spent a healthy part of my day watching KC's offense against the Cards D so I missed a lot of the starters duking it out with the AZ offense. A few things I did notice was that we again struggled to apply pressure on the QB with the first string. That said, our second string looked great, especially Sheffield. I don't know how his job can be considered on the line after watching him play today. He was quick and constantly making a nuisance of himself.

Stanford Routt covered Fitz and for the two out of three plays I watched, Routt did his job and looked good doing it. That third play Fitz created separation and I think that would have possibly gone for a TD. I missed a lot the action on defense today so you'll have to find that info elsewhere. Sorry folks, I sat on the wrong side.

Closing Thoughts: The Chiefs were far and away the better team, first, second, and third units as far as I could tell. I'm assuming Skelton is their starting QB and if that's the case he's really struggling from what little I saw. Same with their backups. Patrick Peterson and Larry Fitzgerald are polarizing players and I do like Whisenhunt so that's something they have going for them.

In one-on-one drills our WR's dominated AZ's secondary. Dominated. Hillis and Draughn looked great today (although Draughn's hands are not the best I've ever seen. The Chiefs special teams looked good for the most part, especially Colquitt, man he can punt. Two of the things that made me walk away shaking my head is the sheer size of Ropati Pitioitua. The man is a genuine giant. He is beyond huge. The second is that Tamba Hali stood out there, drowning in his own sweat, and signed autographs for a solid 25-30 minutes for as many people as he could before stumbling away for life support. That man can sweat. I was disappointed he didn't sign anything for me when I was literally 5 feet away from him, but I had to respect what he did for everyone else. Very cool Tambahawk, very cool.