Raiders name Derek Carr starting QB

[-King-]

Report: Raiders tab Derek Carr as starting quarterback

Posted by Mike Wilkening on September 1, 2014, 6:21 PM EDT
Derek Carr

The Raiders are going with a rookie at quarterback to begin the regular season.

Fox’s Jay Glazer reports the Raiders have switched starters in advance of Sunday’s opener at the Jets, with Derek Carr getting the nod over Matt Schaub.

According to Glazer, players have been informed of the decision.

The call to go with Carr comes after the second-round pick from Fresno State completed 11-of-13 passes for 143 yards and three TDs in the preseason finale vs. Seattle. Schaub sat out the game with elbow soreness.

Schaub, whom the Raiders acquired from Houston in the offseason, was just 24-of-47 passing for 218 yards with no touchdowns and one interception in exhibition play. He was sacked three times.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...g-quarterback/

[Laniers Revenge]

@L.A. Chieffan
I'm not so sure thats a good way to Judge a Qb's future. The 2nd round is generally not a QB round and there are several HOF Qb's drafted after the 2nd round. There's been a lot of floops drafted in the 1st round too. Marino was almost a 2nd rounder, because several teams passed on him.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by CapsLockKey

The point is if you are arguing that drafting your own QB pays off more than signing a retread, the Raiders are the last organization you should be using as an example. Their only moments of success since the 70's was with retread QBs.

if carr turns out to be another russel wilson or kapernick i will stab myself in the face repeatedly

I pray you are correct sir

but I still wish we would at least swing the god damn bat

[tooge]

Originally Posted by Ben N 58men

Oakland and Jaguars know what it takes to be competitive.

Yep, exactly, and THAT, is why they are.....Oh wait. forget it.

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by tooge

Yep, exactly, and THAT, is why they are.....Oh wait. forget it.

Two Words...


Enjoy Smiff

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by 505 Chief

CP selected Sanchez: playoff winner,

and Geno: ascending.

Sanchez was such a winner that the Jets got rid of him and replaced him with.....

Geno

And Geno has pretty much nowhere to go but up, because he was awful last season.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

CP is 1000x's worse than the chiefs. This place couldnt tell the difference between its ass and a hole in the grounds when it comes to quarterbacks.

CP only cares about the hype of a 1st round QB and "What it could mean", rarely does CP actually get into a meaningful debate about which of the QB's drafted in the first two rands will most likely be the bust, which will be the serviceable backup, which will be the journeyman starter, etc.

CP only cares about Andrew Luck Type 1st round selections at QB.

Originally Posted by 505 Chief

CP selected Sanchez: playoff winner,

and Geno: ascending.


CP also selected Clausen, and I have no idea what the hell that was all about.

CP is willing to pull triggers.

Chiefs are willing to pull puds.

CPFTW.

CP is willing to spend its first round pick, every year, on QB's, regardless of how well they measure out, or how well they actually fit OUR offense. CP assumes that we draft the best QB possible, then mold the offense around him, and that's just not how it works most of the time.

In 2006, we'd have drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of DJ (That's questionable)
In 2006, we'd have drafted Kellen Clemens instead of Hali (ELOH****INGEL)
In 2007, we'd have drafted Kevin Kolb instead of Bowe (Nopenopenope)
In 2008, we'd have drafted Joe Flacco instead of Dorsey (Yes please)
In 2009, we'd have drafted Sanchez instead of Jackson (No thanks)
In 2010, we'd have drafted Tebow instead of Berry (LOLOLOLOL)
In 2011, we'd have drafted Dalton instead of Baldwin (I wish) not much better
In 2012, we'd have drafted Weeden instead of Poe (LOLOLOLOL)
In 2013, we'd have drafted EJ Manuel instead of Fisher (Ehhh, no thanks)
In 2014 we'd have drafted Bridgewater/Carr instead of Ford (we shall see)

So as we can see here in the last 10 years, we'd have had 3 shots at decent QB's (Rodgers, Flacco, and Dalton), but would have given up DJ, Hali, Bowe, Berry, Poe, Fisher, and Ford from our active roster.

Cry as we might about this one, but 7 of our last 10 1st round picks are still on this team, and 6 of those guys are starters, 5 of them have already been pro bowlers.

Now, I'm all for drafting a guy like Aaron Rodgers or Joe Flacco over DJ, whom I think is the best draft pick on that list, but I wouldn't be willing to have Aaron for those 6 starters we have from those 10 draft picks, which is exactly why I'm not upset that we keep taking defensive talents with our first picks instead of QB's, because if we'd have been drafting QB's with our #1 pick over the last 10 years, we'd have 3 pro bowl caliber QB's with only half a defense.

Oh, and Geno sucks.

[Hammock Parties]

we'd have drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of DJ (That's questionable)

WAT WAT WAT WAT WAT WAT WAT WAT

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

CP only cares about the hype of a 1st round QB and "What it could mean", rarely does CP actually get into a meaningful debate about which of the QB's drafted in the first two rands will most likely be the bust, which will be the serviceable backup, which will be the journeyman starter, etc.

CP only cares about Andrew Luck Type 1st round selections at QB.



CP is willing to spend its first round pick, every year, on QB's, regardless of how well they measure out, or how well they actually fit OUR offense. CP assumes that we draft the best QB possible, then mold the offense around him, and that's just not how it works most of the time.

In 2006, we'd have drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of DJ (That's questionable)
In 2006, we'd have drafted Kellen Clemens instead of Hali (ELOH****INGEL)
In 2007, we'd have drafted Kevin Kolb instead of Bowe (Nopenopenope)
In 2008, we'd have drafted Joe Flacco instead of Dorsey (Yes please)
In 2009, we'd have drafted Sanchez instead of Jackson (No thanks)
In 2010, we'd have drafted Tebow instead of Berry (LOLOLOLOL)
In 2011, we'd have drafted Dalton instead of Baldwin (I wish) not much better
In 2012, we'd have drafted Weeden instead of Poe (LOLOLOLOL)
In 2013, we'd have drafted EJ Manuel instead of Fisher (Ehhh, no thanks)
In 2014 we'd have drafted Bridgewater/Carr instead of Ford (we shall see)

So as we can see here in the last 10 years, we'd have had 3 shots at decent QB's (Rodgers, Flacco, and Dalton), but would have given up DJ, Hali, Bowe, Berry, Poe, Fisher, and Ford from our active roster.

Cry as we might about this one, but 7 of our last 10 1st round picks are still on this team, and 6 of those guys are starters, 5 of them have already been pro bowlers.

Now, I'm all for drafting a guy like Aaron Rodgers or Joe Flacco over DJ, whom I think is the best draft pick on that list, but I wouldn't be willing to have Aaron for those 6 starters we have from those 10 draft picks, which is exactly why I'm not upset that we keep taking defensive talents with our first picks instead of QB's, because if we'd have been drafting QB's with our #1 pick over the last 10 years, we'd have 3 pro bowl caliber QB's with only half a defense.

Oh, and Geno sucks.

And you would have hit.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

CP only cares about the hype of a 1st round QB and "What it could mean", rarely does CP actually get into a meaningful debate about which of the QB's drafted in the first two rands will most likely be the bust, which will be the serviceable backup, which will be the journeyman starter, etc.

CP only cares about Andrew Luck Type 1st round selections at QB.



CP is willing to spend its first round pick, every year, on QB's, regardless of how well they measure out, or how well they actually fit OUR offense. CP assumes that we draft the best QB possible, then mold the offense around him, and that's just not how it works most of the time.

In 2006, we'd have drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of DJ (That's questionable)
In 2006, we'd have drafted Kellen Clemens instead of Hali (ELOH****INGEL)
In 2007, we'd have drafted Kevin Kolb instead of Bowe (Nopenopenope)
In 2008, we'd have drafted Joe Flacco instead of Dorsey (Yes please)
In 2009, we'd have drafted Sanchez instead of Jackson (No thanks)
In 2010, we'd have drafted Tebow instead of Berry (LOLOLOLOL)
In 2011, we'd have drafted Dalton instead of Baldwin (I wish) not much better
In 2012, we'd have drafted Weeden instead of Poe (LOLOLOLOL)
In 2013, we'd have drafted EJ Manuel instead of Fisher (Ehhh, no thanks)
In 2014 we'd have drafted Bridgewater/Carr instead of Ford (we shall see)

So as we can see here in the last 10 years, we'd have had 3 shots at decent QB's (Rodgers, Flacco, and Dalton), but would have given up DJ, Hali, Bowe, Berry, Poe, Fisher, and Ford from our active roster.

Cry as we might about this one, but 7 of our last 10 1st round picks are still on this team, and 6 of those guys are starters, 5 of them have already been pro bowlers.

Now, I'm all for drafting a guy like Aaron Rodgers or Joe Flacco over DJ, whom I think is the best draft pick on that list, but I wouldn't be willing to have Aaron for those 6 starters we have from those 10 draft picks, which is exactly why I'm not upset that we keep taking defensive talents with our first picks instead of QB's, because if we'd have been drafting QB's with our #1 pick over the last 10 years, we'd have 3 pro bowl caliber QB's with only half a defense.

Oh, and Geno sucks.

really? Also, kc could have drafted other QBs outside of the ones you listed, if they had pulled the trigger in the second or even third round. Nick Foles is a perfect example, along with Wilson. Also, you make it sound like drafts are static, they aren't. It doesn't take a genius to figure out a way to trade up or down in a draft and get the player you want.... just say'n.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

really? Also, kc could have drafted other QBs outside of the ones you listed, if they had pulled the trigger in the second or even third round. Nick Foles is a perfect example, along with Wilson. Also, you make it sound like drafts are static, they aren't. It doesn't take a genius to figure out a way to trade up or down in a draft and get the player you want.... just say'n.

You also don't realize that every draft is different, sometimes there is a boatload of talent, sometimes there isn't.

Nick Foles is not a better QB than Alex Smith, Wilson is not a better QB than Smith, and while I'm all for taking QB's after the 1st round, we needn't be so caught up in drafting a 1st round talent, especially with the last 10 years of drafting being evident of that.

You wait for "your" guy who works in "your" system, and if need be, you throw everything and the kitchen sink at whoever owns the draft spot to move up and get him.

That being said, I'm excited about Bray and Murray, they've certainly seemed, thus far, the best QB's we've drafted in a long time, despite their likelihood to be career backups.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Nick Foles is not a better QB than Alex Smith, Wilson is not a better QB than Smith

This franchise has infected you with ignorance.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Nick Foles is not a better QB than Alex Smith, Wilson is not a better QB than Smith, and while I'm all for taking QB's after the 1st round, we needn't be so caught up in drafting a 1st round talent, especially with the last 10 years of drafting being evident of that.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

really? Also, kc could have drafted other QBs outside of the ones you listed, if they had pulled the trigger in the second or even third round. Nick Foles is a perfect example, along with Wilson. Also, you make it sound like drafts are static, they aren't. It doesn't take a genius to figure out a way to trade up or down in a draft and get the player you want.... just say'n.

Well, that's what makes the whole people dissing aaron murray so quickly thing hilarious.

Who drafted FOLES?

Andy knows qbs.

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

you think Nick foles is a better Qb than smith? lmao no team had a gameplan for him last season... foles is gonna throw more than what.. one int he had last year

[CapsLockKey]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

if carr turns out to be another russel wilson or kapernick i will stab myself in the face repeatedly

I pray you are correct sir

but I still wish we would at least swing the god damn bat

That's a big if. Both of those guys walked into playoff caliber teams with great coaching. Carr gets to start for a team that has been near the bottom of the league for over a decade and is in year two of a complete roster rebuild. History has not been kind to rookie QBs starting their first year on a bad team. He doesn't need to look any further than his brother for an example.