Chiefs Andy Reid shuts down your Chiefs QB controversy talk - Page 22

oaklandhater · 10-31-2016, 02:30 PM

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by Joel Thorman Oct 31, 2016, 2:44p

You know Andy Reid was going to stand by Alex Smith and that’s what he did on Monday when facing the press. Reid has been doing this for a loooong time so he let reporters have their fun for a few minutes and then he shut down any talk of Nick Foles playing in front of a healthy Alex Smith. Will it work? I guess it depends on how well Foles plays this weekend ... if he plays this weekend since the Chiefs doctors contend Alex actually doesn’t have a concussion.

Check out this exchange between Reid and reporters this afternoon.

Q: You were asked whether you had to cut back the game plan when Foles came in and you said no. Did he allow you to expand the game plan, maybe do some things that you couldn’t do with Smith?

Reid: No. Alex, I’m not sure we realize how good he is. We’ve opened this thing up further than maybe we’ve ever opened it up. He does a tremendous job. It’s a shame he didn’t have a chance to finish off the game plan because he would’ve had a ton of success with it. Not to take anything away from Nick. We didn’t have to cut a thing out for Nick coming in. That was a win-win for both guys. To think one would’ve done better than the other, I don’t believe that. If Alex would’ve been in, we would’ve done the same thing.

Q: You guys his four passes of 30 yards down the field. That’s unusual for you guys. Was that because the way the game was going or because of who was at quarterback?

Reid: I think it was part of the plan. That was all in the game plan. They would’ve been called. They were right on the first 15. They were coming up so whether it was Alex in there or Nick they were coming up. A couple of them formation wise, there was a little confusion on the formation and guys popped open.

Q: Does Foles give you more capability in that area?

Reid: No, I’m not even sure I like the way you’re going with this. Alex can do all the things that need to be done in this offense and do them at a Pro Bowl-caliber level.

Q: Is he your quarterback when he’s healthy then?

/death stare

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2016, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11

I have a VERY hard time believing Nick Foles can lead this offense to worse than 23rd in PPG.

And I have a hard time believing that Foles won't turn the ball over far more frequently, which puts the defense in a poor position, especially considering their current limitations.

The Chiefs are 15-2 with Alex Smith over the course of their last 17 games.

Nick Foles is 4-7 as a starter during that time.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-02-2016, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And I have a hard time believing that Foles won't turn the ball over far more frequently, which puts the defense in a poor position, especially considering their current limitations.

The Chiefs are 15-2 with Alex Smith over the course of their last 17 games.

Nick Foles is 4-7 as a starter during that time.

With what defense?

Because most of the 15-2 Alex is afforded is because of the defense.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-02-2016, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

With what defense?

Because most of the 15-2 Alex is afforded is because of the defense.

You damn fool. Where were all the wins when the same defensive personnel was on this team before his arrival?

That's the biggest flaw in your argument. We have years of comparison pre- Smith/Reid era to show that he single handedly turned things around.

Take your alzheimer's meds.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2016, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

With what defense?

Because most of the 15-2 Alex is afforded is because of the defense.

I fully disagree.

Young players and rookies in the secondary, very little pass rush, very few, if ever, exotic blitzes, 2 different starting ILBer's, the loss of Bailey on the season, etc.

It's a team sport, something people around here have been brainwashed into forgetting.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-02-2016, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You damn fool. Where were all the wins when the same defensive personnel was on this team before his arrival?

That's the biggest flaw in your argument. We have years of comparison pre- Smith/Reid era to show that he single handedly turned things around.

Take your alzheimer's meds.

The same personnel from 2012?

Anyone want to see how many defensive starters were here in 2012? Because I'm not wasting my time doing it. Off the top of my head, it's Hali, DJ and maybe Sorenson? Poe as a rookie?

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-02-2016, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The same personnel from 2012?

Anyone want to see how many defensive starters were here in 2012? Because I'm not wasting my time doing it. Off the top of my head, it's Hali, DJ and maybe Sorenson? Poe as a rookie?

You don't go from 2-14 to a playoff berth off of sheer luck. Discrediting Smith when he turned this organization around despite the fact the defensive personnel did not change literally at all from 2012 to 2013

God. ****. You are dumb!!!

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2016, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The same personnel from 2012?

Anyone want to see how many defensive starters were here in 2012? Because I'm not wasting my time doing it. Off the top of my head, it's Hali, DJ and maybe Sorenson? Poe as a rookie?

Poe, Bailey, DJ, Houston (out, of course), Hali, Berry

Go Royals · 11-02-2016, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The same personnel from 2012?

Anyone want to see how many defensive starters were here in 2012? Because I'm not wasting my time doing it. Off the top of my head, it's Hali, DJ and maybe Sorenson? Poe as a rookie?

Hali, DJ, Rookie Poe, Berry, Houston, and Allen Bailey was rotational

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-02-2016, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Go Royals

Hali, DJ, Rookie Poe, Berry, Houston, and Allen Bailey was rotational

EXACTLY THE SAME PERSONNEL!*

*not even half of the defensive starters from 2012

**jjchieffan** · 11-02-2016, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The same personnel from 2012?

Anyone want to see how many defensive starters were here in 2012? Because I'm not wasting my time doing it. Off the top of my head, it's Hali, DJ and maybe Sorenson? Poe as a rookie?

That's true. I think Dorsey overturned close to half of the roster that first season. But he picked up a lot of guys off of the scrap heap and they played pretty well. It's amazing what Dorsey did in turning this team around so quickly.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-02-2016, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

EXACTLY THE SAME PERSONNEL!*

*not even half of the defensive starters from 2012

2012 defense and 2013 defense was 85% the SAME. You understand that I just found a severe flaw in your logic that you cannot refute?

If you think Sean Smith (the only significant change in the roster) was the reason this team went from 2 wins to a playoff team in one offseason then you must be smoking some of the strongest weed this side of the mississippi.

Holy ****!

Alex Smith = Winner

Hammock Parties · 11-02-2016, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And I have a hard time believing that Foles won't turn the ball over far more frequently

Alex Smith and Nick Foles have IDENTICAL INT % over the course of their careers.

Furthermore, in Philly, Foles had a FOUR TO ONE TD-INT ratio his last two seasons.

SUPPORT THE CHIEFS QUARTERBACK

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2016, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11

Furthermore, in Philly, Foles had a FOUR TO ONE TD-INT ratio his last two seasons.

Then why was he traded for a bag of shit?

And why couldn't he wrestle the job from Case Keenum or the #1 overall pick (who has yet to see the field)?

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-02-2016, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11

Alex Smith and Nick Foles have IDENTICAL INT % over the course of their careers.

Furthermore, in Philly, Foles had a FOUR TO ONE TD-INT ratio his last two seasons.

SUPPORT THE CHIEFS QUARTERBACK

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1...and-the-qb-non

Put this in your pipe and smoke it , Jester.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-02-2016, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Then why was he traded for a bag of shit?

And why couldn't he wrestle the job from Case Keenum or the #1 overall pick (who has yet to see the field)?

Too easy.

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oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5888993	Andy Reid shuts down your Chiefs QB controversy talk http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1...ntroversy-talk 55 by Joel Thorman Oct 31, 2016, 2:44p You know Andy Reid was going to stand by Alex Smith and that’s what he did on Monday when facing the press. Reid has been doing this for a loooong time so he let reporters have their fun for a few minutes and then he shut down any talk of Nick Foles playing in front of a healthy Alex Smith. Will it work? I guess it depends on how well Foles plays this weekend ... if he plays this weekend since the Chiefs doctors contend Alex actually doesn’t have a concussion. Check out this exchange between Reid and reporters this afternoon. Q: You were asked whether you had to cut back the game plan when Foles came in and you said no. Did he allow you to expand the game plan, maybe do some things that you couldn’t do with Smith? Reid: No. Alex, I’m not sure we realize how good he is. We’ve opened this thing up further than maybe we’ve ever opened it up. He does a tremendous job. It’s a shame he didn’t have a chance to finish off the game plan because he would’ve had a ton of success with it. Not to take anything away from Nick. We didn’t have to cut a thing out for Nick coming in. That was a win-win for both guys. To think one would’ve done better than the other, I don’t believe that. If Alex would’ve been in, we would’ve done the same thing. Q: You guys his four passes of 30 yards down the field. That’s unusual for you guys. Was that because the way the game was going or because of who was at quarterback? Reid: I think it was part of the plan. That was all in the game plan. They would’ve been called. They were right on the first 15. They were coming up so whether it was Alex in there or Nick they were coming up. A couple of them formation wise, there was a little confusion on the formation and guys popped open. Q: Does Foles give you more capability in that area? Reid: No, I’m not even sure I like the way you’re going with this. Alex can do all the things that need to be done in this offense and do them at a Pro Bowl-caliber level. Q: Is he your quarterback when he’s healthy then? /death stare
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