Chiefs Whitlock LOLs at the Patsification of the Chiefs - Page 23

Hammock Parties · 01-14-2010, 01:33 AM

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Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor.

Until then, I’ll take a wait-and-see approach with Scott Pioli’s New England Relocation Plan.

Right now, this smells like a Jackson Five reunion tour without Michael (Brady) or Janet (Bill Belichick).

Romeo “Tito” Crennel, the defensive coordinator, joins Pioli, Charlie Weis, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel and ex-Pats to be named later in what appears to be a lame attempt at recreating the New England Dynasty.

Let me apologize for being unimpressed with this lineup.

You’re tired of reading it, and I’m tired of writing it. Unfortunately, I’m paid to tell you what I really think. Romeo Crennel sounds great on paper. He won three Super Bowls while holding the title of “defensive coordinator” for Belichick’s Patriots.

Tito sold a bunch of records plucking a guitar and singing backup for Michael Jackson. Without The Gloved One, we never heard of Tito again until Michael passed.

Romeo flamed out in Cleveland as a head coach. Of all the Belichick assistants during the Super Bowl years, Crennel was the one with the least amount of responsibility on his plate. Belichick designed the defenses.

When Crennel got the Cleveland job, I asked a longtime Patriots defender what he thought of the hire, and the player told me flat out that he never envisioned Romeo as a head coach.

It’s just one player, one opinion. And not being head-coach material doesn’t disqualify someone from being a top-flight coordinator.

In fact, I touched base with the player again on Wednesday, and he assured me that Crennel installed the defensive game plan throughout the week without interference from Belichick and that Crennel called the game.

The player also assured me that Belichick had his fingerprints on everything that transpired with the team — special teams, offense, defense and front-office decisions.

I’m just not sold on Crennel. As a coordinator, Crennel has far more to prove than Charlie Weis. No one I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to create innovative game plans. (Everyone I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to control his ego.)

Crennel worked for Belichick, who specializes in defense. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick working as his defensive coordinator.

Hey, maybe one day we will be saying the same thing about Belichick and Crennel.

Today, all I’m sure of is that Crennel’s hiring increases the likelihood that Todd Haley is in a make-or-break season in 2010.

If things go poorly next season, don’t look for Pioli, Weis and Crennel to take the blame. They have nine Super Bowl rings among them. In their mind, they know exactly what it takes to win at the highest level in the NFL.

Haley either has no political savvy, no interest in playing the kind of politics that enhances a coach’s longevity or zero leverage when putting together a coaching staff.

Given the previous working relationship of Pioli, Weis and Crennel — and Weis’ oversized ego — it would be a seamless transition for Pioli to install Weis as head coach midway through the 2010 season or at the start of 2011.

My gut says Haley’s ego and gambling nature make him unaware of the ramifications of his decisions. Firing Chan Gailey was a colossal error. With the offensive personnel provided to him by Pioli, Haley should’ve held on to Gailey for a season. There was no reason for the head coach to attach his reputation and credibility to a receiver-less offense.

Good coaches are paranoid. They perceive every move by ownership/management as a potential threat to their power. Paranoia is what drives a good coach to be great. Paranoia is what makes a coach sleep at his office and punt on fourth down.

Look at Belichick. He’s been spoiled by success. That’s why he went for it on fourth and 2 against the Colts. He’s losing his paranoia.

Haley’s background is extremely unusual for an NFL head coach. Golfers focus on a single obstacle, the course. A football coach worries about a million things, including what his assistants may or may not be plotting.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-14-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I think after bringing in Weis, There is no way Pioli gives him that $ if he plays like he did this year. The Pats never seemed to have a problem with dumping a player that isn't earning his dough.

Like Laurence Maroney.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-14-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Because that's his job and the nature of the business.

His job is to take players with marginal talent, who have started 15 games in the NFL, and back up the Brinks truck?

As Deez said, there was no reason to sign him long term. The organization actually would have more leverage had they just paid the one year franchise number.

Micjones · 01-14-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Like Laurence Maroney.

You don't just dump former #1's.
Teams are commonly longsuffering with players in his position.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-14-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

His job is to take players with marginal talent, who have started 15 games in the NFL, and back up the Brinks truck?

As Deez said, there was no reason to sign him long term. The organization actually would have more leverage had they just paid the one year franchise number.

Yeah, but how could you know that? No one ever suggested this, ever, at any point before the draft last year. Not one person.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-14-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

You don't just dump former #1's.
Teams are commonly longsuffering with players in his position.

He was a late first round pick, not a top ten pick.

Hell, there are several teams who have dropped top 10 picks much faster than that.

beach tribe · 01-14-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

If Pioli was concerned about having an "out", why sign him to a long term deal to begin with?

Because he obviously knew that it would take more than one season with a bunch of scrubs to find out if he was the guy or not. Pioli had no idea what kind of season Cassel would have with these guys. If he replicated his #s in NE, then he would have had to face tagging him again, or signing him to the kind of contract he's in now, only a year later. At first, I thought he should have waited, but now it seems like he did the right thing, because Cassel gets two years to prove his worth, and the team has an "out" after that. Looks pretty damn smart to me now.

Micjones · 01-14-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

His job is to take players with marginal talent, who have started 15 games in the NFL, and back up the Brinks truck?

His job is to structure contracts in such a way that it protects the interests of the team if things don't work out. He did that.

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As Deez said, there was no reason to sign him long term. The organization actually would have more leverage had they just paid the one year franchise number.

So, the alternative is what then?
They evaluate him after just 1 year with a half-dozen problems that contributed to his performance problems on the field?

I thought the contract was premature myself, but I'm not ready to give up on the guy. Neither should the organization be.

beach tribe · 01-14-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Like Laurence Maroney.

Yaaay Hamas found the exception. You're so smart.

Micjones · 01-14-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He was a late first round pick, not a top ten pick.

21st overall. Doesn't change the fact that former #1's get more time in the NFL than anyone else on average.
He's been there 4 seasons, no? Pioli was there for three of them.
So the argument is that he allowed Maroney to play there 1 year longer than he should've?
Or are you suggesting that they should've dumped him after his rookie season?

Epic Fail 007 · 01-14-2010, 02:04 PM

WHITLOCK JUST DOSE NOT WANT THE CHIEFS TO WIN,HE NEVER HAS,HE ALWAYS BASHES THEM.EVEN THEY WERE TO GO 16-0 ,HE WOULD SAY SOMETHING NEGATIVE.HE REMINDS ME OF A LITTLE KID WHO WAS WAS GETTIN ALL THE ATTENTION AND SUDDENLY IT WAS TAKEN AWAY.HE JUST WANTS ATTENTION AND HES CRYIN,CARLS GONE,SO HE DOSE NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO.SO I SAY TAKE UR BOTTLE LITTLE JASON ,GO CRY IN THE CORNER AN KEEP UR NEGATIVE CRAP TO URSELF.

Pitt Gorilla · 01-14-2010, 02:05 PM

Tito is a very talented musician.

**DeezNutz** · 01-14-2010, 02:06 PM

Uh, oh.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-14-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Yaaay Hamas found the exception. You're so smart.

Adalius Thomas.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-14-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

You don't just dump former #1's.
Teams are commonly longsuffering with players in his position.

Really?

Bobby Carpenter and John McCargo, both from Maroney's class beg to differ.

And at the RB position, you have Ced Benson, LJ, and Edgerrin James recently, and off the top of my head. Benson was the 4th overall pick, FFS.

And you can probably count on Reggie Bush and Addai being dumped by their respective teams this offseason.

Hell, that's the Colts Way. Draft. Abuse. Cut. Rinse. Repeat.

beach tribe · 01-14-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eric007

WHITLOCK JUST DOSE NOT WANT THE CHIEFS TO WIN,HE NEVER HAS,HE ALWAYS BASHES THEM.EVEN THEY WERE TO GO 16-0 ,HE WOULD SAY SOMETHING NEGATIVE.HE REMINDS ME OF A LITTLE KID WHO WAS WAS GETTIN ALL THE ATTENTION AND SUDDENLY IT WAS TAKEN AWAY.HE JUST WANTS ATTENTION AND HES CRYIN,CARLS GONE,SO HE DOSE NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO.SO I SAY TAKE UR BOTTLE LITTLE JASN ,GO CRY IN THE CORNER AN KEEP UR NEGATIVE CRAP TO URSELF.

LOL

01-14-2010, 01:33 AM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $930478	Whitlock LOLs at the Patsification of the Chiefs http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...y/1682402.html Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor. Until then, I’ll take a wait-and-see approach with Scott Pioli’s New England Relocation Plan. Right now, this smells like a Jackson Five reunion tour without Michael (Brady) or Janet (Bill Belichick). Romeo “Tito” Crennel, the defensive coordinator, joins Pioli, Charlie Weis, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel and ex-Pats to be named later in what appears to be a lame attempt at recreating the New England Dynasty. Let me apologize for being unimpressed with this lineup. You’re tired of reading it, and I’m tired of writing it. Unfortunately, I’m paid to tell you what I really think. Romeo Crennel sounds great on paper. He won three Super Bowls while holding the title of “defensive coordinator” for Belichick’s Patriots. Tito sold a bunch of records plucking a guitar and singing backup for Michael Jackson. Without The Gloved One, we never heard of Tito again until Michael passed. Romeo flamed out in Cleveland as a head coach. Of all the Belichick assistants during the Super Bowl years, Crennel was the one with the least amount of responsibility on his plate. Belichick designed the defenses. When Crennel got the Cleveland job, I asked a longtime Patriots defender what he thought of the hire, and the player told me flat out that he never envisioned Romeo as a head coach. It’s just one player, one opinion. And not being head-coach material doesn’t disqualify someone from being a top-flight coordinator. In fact, I touched base with the player again on Wednesday, and he assured me that Crennel installed the defensive game plan throughout the week without interference from Belichick and that Crennel called the game. The player also assured me that Belichick had his fingerprints on everything that transpired with the team — special teams, offense, defense and front-office decisions. I’m just not sold on Crennel. As a coordinator, Crennel has far more to prove than Charlie Weis. No one I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to create innovative game plans. (Everyone I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to control his ego.) Crennel worked for Belichick, who specializes in defense. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick working as his defensive coordinator. Hey, maybe one day we will be saying the same thing about Belichick and Crennel. Today, all I’m sure of is that Crennel’s hiring increases the likelihood that Todd Haley is in a make-or-break season in 2010. If things go poorly next season, don’t look for Pioli, Weis and Crennel to take the blame. They have nine Super Bowl rings among them. In their mind, they know exactly what it takes to win at the highest level in the NFL. Haley either has no political savvy, no interest in playing the kind of politics that enhances a coach’s longevity or zero leverage when putting together a coaching staff. Given the previous working relationship of Pioli, Weis and Crennel — and Weis’ oversized ego — it would be a seamless transition for Pioli to install Weis as head coach midway through the 2010 season or at the start of 2011. My gut says Haley’s ego and gambling nature make him unaware of the ramifications of his decisions. Firing Chan Gailey was a colossal error. With the offensive personnel provided to him by Pioli, Haley should’ve held on to Gailey for a season. There was no reason for the head coach to attach his reputation and credibility to a receiver-less offense. Good coaches are paranoid. They perceive every move by ownership/management as a potential threat to their power. Paranoia is what drives a good coach to be great. Paranoia is what makes a coach sleep at his office and punt on fourth down. Look at Belichick. He’s been spoiled by success. That’s why he went for it on fourth and 2 against the Colts. He’s losing his paranoia. Haley’s background is extremely unusual for an NFL head coach. Golfers focus on a single obstacle, the course. A football coach worries about a million things, including what his assistants may or may not be plotting.
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Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $-29806	Tito is a very talented musician. __________________ Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
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