Another two weeks before the lockout is over?

[ToxSocks]

I'm over this shit now....

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sp...-thats-a-sham/

Herald columnist Ron Borges from Atlanta: The union to recertify in a day? That’s a “sham”
Herald columnist Ron Borges is in Atlanta for the much-ballyhooed owners meetings where so many expect a settlement and a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Some expect it today.

In Borges’ view? Chill out a bit.

Here is the explanatory report he just filed:

By Ron Borges
ATLANTA – Once again, NFL owners want it both ways.

When the NFLPA tried to decertify the owners’ argument was that it couldn’t be done with by a simple snap of the union’s fingers. Time had to pass, they argued, or it was all “a sham,” a point they somehow won in front of the most conservative Federal appeals court in the country.

Now they are insisting that the NFLPA settle two multi-million dollar lawsuits, approve a new 10-year CBA that cuts their pay by hundreds of millions of dollars and recertify their union in a day.


The NFLPA has basically said they may be able to do the first two but recertification will take at least two weeks. The owners, as they always seem to be except when lining their pockets, are outraged and demanding a “global settlement’’ be completed today.

Now there’s “a sham,” because nearly 1,000 recertification cards have to be signed and returned, approving recertification before the union can re-form. And that takes a lot longer than 24 hours, according to the union.

With that as the latest background in what has become a far longer slog toward a settlement of the 132-day and counting lockout than either side expected, the owners are meeting in Atlanta poised to vote on approval of a deal with the players that they don’t yet have with the players.

“It’s an ongoing thing,’’ Indianapolis Colts’ owner Jimmy Irsay said. “Everyone is pushing in that direction but it’s never done until it’s done. We are hoping to get back to the business of football.

“You can only control what you can control. We’re going to try and do our part today getting something approved.’’

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, NFLPA head DeMaurice Smith is trying to corral angry plaintiffs in the Brady vs. NFL case and his own Executive Committee and team player reps to the point where he can get a majority to approve both the settlement and the 10-year CBA framework presently on the table.

He has yet been unable to do that which is why no vote was taken on Wednesday even though many felt it was some sort of fait accompli. Let me tell you something, at this point there is no fait accom-anything, although at some point there will be an NFL season.

Just not anywhere as quickly as fans hoped and the two sides thought possible. As NFLPA president Kevin Mawea ominously said Wednesday the players are not on a July 21 deadline for anything.

So the owners are expected to approve a deal they don’t yet have sometime today while now arguing that a union is a great thing for their business even though the players don’t have one any more.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

bomani_jonesBomani Jones

y'all laugh at players for being bad with money. when they read paperwork, you complain. friggin #meatpeepers.


HAHA

I am super impressed some players know we laugh at them for being bad with money.

See Trent Williams jewelry thread for example.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

mortreportChris Mortensen

League official claims De Smith and leaders have had the documents.... this is strongly refuted by NFLPA

24 seconds agoFavoriteRetweetReply

I have little doubt Smith was NOT blindsided.

[okcchief]

Every report I read contradicts the one I read before. I'm done with looking at this shit until they both agree. A bunch of positioning and political bullshit. I get enough of that at work. Football is supposed to be an escape.

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mellingerSam Mellinger
I'm approving my own deal to give myself a raise and giving my boss until Tuesday to approve. Wish me luck. #NFLLockoutRealWorldApplications


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[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

mellingerSam Mellinger
I'm approving my own deal to give myself a raise and giving my boss until Tuesday to approve. Wish me luck. #NFLLockoutRealWorldApplications


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[alnorth]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I don't know the law, just repeating what's been said all day on NFLN and on Sirius NFL Radio. The players have said repeatedly that they would not be forced to re-certify. IF they were to re-certify, it would be on their own terms.

So apparently, there's a loophole somewhere.

A bunch of sports guys are idiots.

Heck, for the player's sake they need a promise in writing. Otherwise, if nothing's official, the NFL could say "if you form a union, we can talk", they form a union, and suddenly they gave up their antitrust lawsuits for nothing. The NFL can grin, impose the previous CBA with a "hah, gotcha suckers!", and we'll be down a deep rathole.

If I'm the players and I think we have a handshake agreement, I force the NFL to give me a promise in writing contingent on the re-forming of a union by a deadline, so that I can form the union assured that the deal's done and the NFL wont screw me.

This whole "*gasp* the NFL is coercing them to form a union!" thing is silly.

If the players don't want to unionize, they can give the NFL the finger, keep on with their lawsuit, appeal the 8th circuit to the full 8th or the supreme court, and press on for a forced end to the lockout with no CBA and total victory.

[tk13]

I would like to announce I've unanimously voted to give myself all the casino cash on ChiefsPlanet. The rest of you people have 'til Tuesday to agree, or you can all get the bleep out. Thank you.

[BossChief]

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[KurtCobain]

I wish the players would just say **** it and sign.

[Stanley Nickels]

Herm Edwards is a boob

[Titty Meat]

I was out to dinner can someone re-capped what went down?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels

Herm Edwards is a boob

[/2008]

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therealhollidayVonnie Holliday

Look guys I have no reason to lie! The truth of the matter is we got tricked, duped, led astray, hoodwinked, bamboozled!

21 minutes agoFavoriteRetweetReply

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dkaplanSBJdaniel kaplan

From Smith to player reps in email: "In addition to depriving the players of the time needed to consider forming a union and making needed..

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...changes to the old Agreement, this proposed procedure would in my view also violate federal labor laws."

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

I was out to dinner can someone re-capped what went down?

1) NFL owners approved a tentative 10-year CBA, contingent on the players reforming a union and approving it by Tuesday. Vote was 31-0, with Oakland abstaining.

2) The NFL had a press conference basically talking like it was a done deal, the rest are formalities, everything's been agreed to, the players are ready to approve it and start playing, here's the game we'll have to cancel, but we're ready to go.

3) NFLPA execs basically said hey wait, time out. We agreed to almost every major issue and we only had a few minor things to iron out, but those minor things haven't been agreed to. You ignored our last counter.

4) Surprise and anger from the NFL owners. (fake surprise or real, your guess) Claims that no, we agreed to everything, what are you talking about.

5) NFLPA leaders basically said ok fine, as soon as you send us your CBA, we'll look at it and talk it over. Maybe we'll agree, maybe we wont. No promises. We cant do anything yet though, because you haven't sent us anything yet.

6) NFL owners: uhh, yeah we did. We gave you the CBA we passed.

7) NFLPA uhh, no you didn't. Give it to us now, we'll start internally debating whether to accept your offer tomorrow.

8) NFL: OK fine, but do it by Tuesday.