Let's talk about the ****ing Bills.

[Direckshun]

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:

• The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
• He is still Kyle Orton.

That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.

[diqlix]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

I get why he says it and now I know why people say Ortons a douche. Orton folds like a card table under pressure. Look forward to sacking him plenty. After all, he's been sacked 17 times in 3 games.

4 games.

[Direckshun]

Touchdown Orton.

Clay Wendler: Bills 24, Chiefs 13

The Chiefs struggle against Buffalo's front four, prompting Alex Smith to ask his offensive line to return the Rolex's he purchased for them earlier this year. Kyle Orton throws three touchdowns, one for every bottle of Jack Daniels he consumes postgame. Pandemonium!

[diqlix]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Orton will be Orton:

EJ Manuel was the QB the first 4 games.

He brought down that % quite a bit.

Orton has actually been surprisingly efficient in the redzone. You can see a few of the TD passes he's thrown like lasers in this video...

youtube.com/watch?v=BmA4Df59gXE

Edit: I guess I can't post videos/links .. been a member of the forum for 3 years lol.

[ThaVirus]

If we don't sack that douche at least 5 times I'll be disappointed.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Kyle Orton won't have any sentiment for reunion with Chiefs

While I've often said he doesnt get his due, that doesnt mean he's some great guy... that piece makes it pretty clear.

On one hand, I understand why he maybe didnt want to be here at the time, maybe he was smart enough to not see much of a successful future with Pioli and Crennel... but wow, to be such a cock about it really says a lot about him, I've always figured he was a lousy teammate.

He was a dick with Romo, bet he hasnt done much to help further Manuels skills and probably was a dick everywhere else as well, Orton is all about Orton... cant say ONE good thing about his time here even though he was given a chance to earn the starting role? Preferred a more "glamorous" team maybe?

**** this guy, I hope we knock his ass out for the season and he loses his starting spot permanently.

[Easy 6]

OCinBuffalo, that was a fine post... but dont be so sure Reids dink and dunk wont work on you, he's been pretty damn successful with it against other solid defenses.

Beyond that, let me personally congratulate you fans on Bon Jovi and that turd Trump not buying your team and moving them to Canada... much like us, you guys are a passionate, small market fan base and deserve to have your football team stay right where it is, very worthy fans up there.

Having said that, heres hoping you lose sunday, lose BIG

[Direckshun]

That new ownership has been tits, recently. They just cancelled the Bills' much-loathed annual game in Toronto.

They also announced new plans for a stadium. Even though they're probably going to make Buffaloans pay for it.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

That new ownership has been tits, recently. They just cancelled the Bills' much-loathed annual game in Toronto.

They also announced new plans for a stadium. Even though they're probably going to make Buffaloans pay for it.

Pegula will likely build the stadium himself. He recently sold off one faction of his business for $1.75 billion. Plus, the voters of New York would never fund a stadium in Buffalo.

[OCinBuffalo]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

We are ****ed unless Jamaal Charles does some houdini shit and the D gets a bunch of TurnOrtons.

Yeah....we are the only team to completely shut down Arian Foster this year. Nigel Bradham. Pray Bradham doesn't hit Smith with a clean shot, if he does its all over. Bradham took Foster's nuts with this single hit on a counter play. Arian basically crumped for the rest of the game. I think the turnOrtons were largely due to not being on the same page with the WRs yet. That has been corrected. Orton didn't come close to turning the ball over last game, and that was against the Jets D.

The dude that laughed about Orton Magic? I was in Buffalo 2 weeks ago watching the Jets game at one of the many fine establishments downtown. We were laughing too. Geno Smith found a way to complete more passes to our team, than his(2/7 9 yards, 3 picks) yet we we only got 7 points out of that. Then, they score, and kickoff. We get it at the 20. After not scoring anything on 2 consecutive drive starts in Jets territory, after not even getting fist down on either....we drive the field and score a TD.

It is Orton Magic...and it's widly entertaining. You are always asking yourself "wait, how did he do that?".

Originally Posted by Direckshun

That being said, I don't know how you score on us.

I don't know how we score on you either. But I have no idea how you score on us.

You could write an infinite loop of this in javascript, and be right to do so.

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

I get why he says it and now I know why people say Ortons a douche. Orton folds like a card table under pressure. Look forward to sacking him plenty. After all, he's been sacked 17 times in 3 games.

Orton has thrown many TDs after he's been sacked mutliple times this year. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he is sacked on our first drive....but....I also wouldn't be surprised if he throws for 70 yards on our next one.

It's like I said: Orton Magic.....and yeah, I'm fully aware of how befuddling that is. All Bills fans live in a state of befuddlement with this offense. It's been a hilarious year us. The always-negative fans(I'm sure you have them too) will usually begin this giant rant about the entire organization in the 2nd/3rd quarter....but...Orton, on cue, throws a long TD pass right in the middle of their rant, making them look like idiots. We've been laughing all season, because EJ would do it sometimes too.

Originally Posted by Easy 6

He was a dick with Romo, bet he hasnt done much to help further Manuels skills and probably was a dick everywhere else as well, Orton is all about Orton... cant say ONE good thing about his time here even though he was given a chance to earn the starting role? Preferred a more "glamorous" team maybe?

**** this guy, I hope we knock his ass out for the season and he loses his starting spot permanently.

I'll take that bet. How about 100 naked Youtube pushups that says Orton has been absolutely wonderful with EJ so far. In fact, this may be the best thing that could have happened to EJ.

Now, should I go get the quotes/stories from our local media, and directly from EJ himself, or would you rather not bet?

[ToxSocks]

An Orton homer.

WTF.

We get the strangest people on CP....

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by daquix

4 games.

Stats on NFL.com showed 3 games

[Easy 6]

OCinBuffalo, if I knew the first damn thing about uploading things to youtube I'd be all over you like the proverbial white on rice... since May of this year I've been doing no fewer than 4 days a week workouts and the highlight of all of them has been elevated pushups and pullups with a backpack filled with 20-40 pounds of free weights.

Used to max out my Army pushups on PT tests in the early 20's... could smash that now even in my nearly mid 40's, they'd have to give me extra credit or something.

I appreciate the smack, I genuinely am glad you guys get to keep your team because you deserve it, you've stuck with them through proverbial thick and thin... much like Kansas City fans.

But I would probably do more elevated AND weighted pushups than you do regular ones... rock on though, Buffalo... I took a little heat for saying Orton would make you guys look respectable again, turns out I was right.... just like 75% of the other times.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by The Herpe

No kidding. Great we now have the Buffalo version of knowmo posting here

[Pasta Little Brioni]

This team was fine against Denver s front 7. Andy will have something lined up to counter the Bills.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

This team was fine against Denver s front 7. Andy will have something lined up to counter the Bills.

Scored all of 17 pts.