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Old 06-02-2009, 11:29 PM  
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Matt Cassel on 810 WHB tomorrow
Matt Cassel will be on BTL tomorrow on 810 WHB around 3:30. According to KK, he will open up the phone lines and Cassel will answer questions from some of the listners. Sounds cool, can't wait!


EDIT: KK said at the beginning of the show that he may not be on! He's obviously not on so I guess they were not able to get him.
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:11 PM   #346
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To go completely off-topic here (hey - it'w the offseason), I have to ask - is the Jason Sauto thing a running gag? I saw it all through the draft discussions.

Since the guy is a mechanic with his own shop IIRC, I assumed the username meant Jason's Auto, like the name of his shop.
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:12 PM   #347
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Do not discount for one moment the level of suck that KC's O-Line is capable of.
I'm not but I will give the new regime credit because on paper the O-line does look improved and The Chiefs old regime didn't seem to care about the O-line. Looking at how the Pats built there team it was with the D-line & The O-line. Plus like the other poster mentioned alot of New Englands offense & Arizonas offense was throw it to the wide reciever at the line and let him make a play.
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:17 PM   #348
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I'm sure you've already seen the youtube clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ctvPzDMfp0
Half of those plays are definitely short, gimme passes to a wide open receiver (usually Welker). But pay attention to the other half. For as good as the receivers are, the majority of the passes were perfectly placed balls. I was especially impressed with his command of when to lead a receiver and when to get it into his back shoulder.

I realize it's a highlight reel and you see the good, but not the bad. But it should be reassuring that there are enough highlights where you can clearly see his ability to put the ball in a perfect spot. I still believe that his offensive line handicapped him a lot more than people realize and I still believe that if the Chiefs can one day put a real offensive line in front of him and he can consistently step into his throws, he will have tremendous upside.

I don't buy into the inaccuracy stuff. I think people say that because he doesn't throw a real pretty deep ball. But from what I've seen, when he has an opportunity to set his feet, he throws a really hard, accurate ball.
Like I said, I think he is accurate.

I'm just not convinces that all that YAC is the result of his accuracy, rather the skill and separation of his WR's and RB's.
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:37 PM   #349
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To go completely off-topic here (hey - it'w the offseason), I have to ask - is the Jason Sauto thing a running gag? I saw it all through the draft discussions.

Since the guy is a mechanic with his own shop IIRC, I assumed the username meant Jason's Auto, like the name of his shop.
NO, NO i'm a little chinese guy that works for the FBI frantically typing away all the time, ask delano he knows.

really you are right about my shop name and faxy started the SAUTO stuff IIRC, funny IMO
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:39 PM   #350
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Like I said, I think he is accurate.

I'm just not convinces that all that YAC is the result of his accuracy, rather the skill and separation of his WR's and RB's.
IMO it's both the WR and the QB. both have to do THEIR job for it to work out. even on the "gimme" passes if the ball wasnt in a good spot the WR/RB would not have ANY chance to make a move. watch the chiefs lasst year, how many times did the WR have to jump or fall down just to get their hands on the ball? doesnt lead to much RAC if you ask me
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:41 PM   #351
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Like I said, I think he is accurate.

I'm just not convinces that all that YAC is the result of his accuracy, rather the skill and separation of his WR's and RB's.
It will certainly be interesting to watch. Last year Bradley got some UNGODLY separation. Just rediculous. And then Thigpen woudl throw an equally rediculous (except bad) ball. It could have been part of the gimicky offense, but on several plays the dude was wide the **** open. And Bowe can be difficult to bring down. I think there is potential there to be some YAC. But getting the ball out accurately with our line can be tough.
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:43 PM   #352
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It will certainly be interesting to watch. Last year Bradley got some UNGODLY separation. Just rediculous. And then Thigpen woudl throw an equally rediculous (except bad) ball. It could have been part of the gimicky offense, but on several plays the dude was wide the **** open. And Bowe can be difficult to bring down. I think there is potential there to be some YAC. But getting the ball out accurately with our line can be tough.
watch the pats line last year, they werent much, if any, better than us
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:46 PM   #353
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Like I said, I think he is accurate.

I'm just not convinces that all that YAC is the result of his accuracy, rather the skill and separation of his WR's and RB's.
No, the YAC isn't all the result of accuracy.

However, the terrible YAC numbers the Chiefs put up is almost entirely the result of poorly thrown balls.
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:49 PM   #354
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No, the YAC isn't all the result of accuracy.

However, the terrible YAC numbers the Chiefs put up is almost entirely the result of poorly thrown balls.
That's not entirely true.

The Pats line over the years have looked better than they actually are because of Tom Brady's pocket presense, and his uncanny ability to slide away from pressure.

But they weren't as bad as they appeared last because Cassel did take too long on his reads and held onto the ball too long.

That improved as the year progressed, but he still has plenty of room for improvement.
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That's not entirely true.

The Pats line over the years have looked better than they actually are because of Tom Brady's pocket presense, and his uncanny ability to slide away from pressure.

But they weren't as bad as they appeared last because Cassel did take too long on his reads and held onto the ball too long.

That improved as the year progressed, but he still has plenty of room for improvement.
i'll assume that you meant to qoute me, watching the games the limemen were OWNED many times, cassel did hold the ball too long sometimes, most qbs do sometimes, and he may have done it more often than others, BUT the line didnt do him many favors IMO
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i'll assume that you meant to qoute me, watching the games the limemen were OWNED many times, cassel did hold the ball too long sometimes, most qbs do sometimes, and he may have done it more often than others, BUT the line didnt do him many favors IMO
Yes, the line did look bad compared to previous years, and I am not laying the blame on Cassel for their failures.

I am just pointing out that they weren't as bad as you painted them.
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Yes, the line did look bad compared to previous years, and I am not laying the blame on Cassel for their failures.

I am just pointing out that they weren't as bad as you painted them.
they were pretty bad, when a QB is ibn the shotgun and repeatedly is hit or pressured within 2 seconds of getting the ball in his hands there is a problem, and when the 2 DEs RUN into EACH OTHER running free and the only reason cassel wasnt a sandwich was because he got the hell out of the way there's a problem. both happened multiple times last year. hell a 5 step drop was met with a defensive player on the 5th step many times
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All of the football minds in this thread(and there are some good ones), and not ONE of you have figured out my greatest advantage in this bet.

I'm a little disappointed fellas.

You'll figure it out eventually though.
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and MM i can agree that brady made them look better, but for some reason last year they were BAD imo, we will see who's to blame with a healthy, supposedly, brady back
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All of the football minds in this thread(and there are some good ones), and not ONE of you have figured out my greatest advantage in this bet.

I'm a little disappointed fellas.

You'll figure it out eventually though.
you think cassel will get hurt. how in the hell could ANY fan bet that their QB will get hurt?
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