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Old 05-26-2023, 11:03 AM  
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Cardinals Release WR DeAndre Hopkins [Titans, 2yr/$26 million]
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Old 05-26-2023, 02:46 PM   #361
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Why this ridiculous fascination with trading MVS? It's silly.
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Old 05-26-2023, 02:47 PM   #362
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For sure but a few will be on other teams.

If we signed Hopkins, could we trade MVS? He has a $8,560,000 base for 2023. Is he good enough that another team would make a trade>
I was wondering the same.
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Old 05-26-2023, 02:47 PM   #363
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Why this ridiculous fascination with trading MVS? It's silly.
It’s mainly just two dudes who have been saying it all offseason.
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Old 05-26-2023, 02:47 PM   #364
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We don’t need him, but if he wants to come here on a low one year incentive laden deal to set himself up for next year, sure. Why not?

No one is likely paying big money at this point. Most teams have spent their salary cap dollars.

I get the feeling he wants to try and win (teams with ring potential; KC, Bills, etc.) this year but ultimately the goal is to go to an explosive offense where he can put up numbers and set himself up for a big final payday this next off-season.

You almost have to think it will be Buffalo or KC at this point.

It may come down to which team offers the ‘better’ incentive laden deal since neither team really has money to spend.
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Old 05-26-2023, 02:48 PM   #365
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He'll be 31 at the start of the season. We have next to nothing in the piggy bank. Even if he came here on the cheap chasing a ring or trying for a long-term contract, how much would he be worth NEXT year and the following years? We also have 12 WRs on the roster today. Just for grins, let's see what those guys have to offer.

In short, thanks but no thanks.
This, in a way, is why it makes sense. How much will he be worth the following years? One way for him to make that number higher and cash in on one last contract is to have an elite season here on a one year deal. How much would he be worth the following years? A lot more if he puts up great numbers with Pat and Andy.

Obviously his value is hurting right now for some reason. Perhaps there's a deeper issue that we don't know (This would explain why he only went for apparent pennies from the Texans to the Cards too) but if he wants to regain some of that value, how he would do it would be a 1 year deal.

He'd be the best WR of the 13 we'd have if he were here.
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Old 05-26-2023, 02:48 PM   #366
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Why this ridiculous fascination with trading MVS? It's silly.
Agreed. Don't know that we could get a trashbag of used washcloths for him.
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Old 05-26-2023, 02:48 PM   #367
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Why this ridiculous fascination with trading MVS? It's silly.
Because we'd prefer Hopkins, they fill similar roles, and MVS is getting too expensive for his worth.
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Old 05-26-2023, 02:49 PM   #368
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Why this ridiculous fascination with trading MVS? It's silly.
Yeah. Not happening. He has a role in this offense. Personally, I think some people think it's like Madden where you can just interchange everyone and people don't have specific purposes and roles in scheming.
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Old 05-26-2023, 02:54 PM   #369
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If it's possible, then the Chiefs will do it. They will find a way. There is no way they don't see that as a move worth making regardless of cost.

But...who the **** knows. I for one hope like hell it happens...
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Old 05-26-2023, 02:55 PM   #370
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We don’t need him, but if he wants to come here on a low one year incentive laden deal to set himself up for next year, sure. Why not?

No one is likely paying big money at this point. Most teams have spent their salary cap dollars.

I get the feeling he wants to try and win (teams with ring potential; KC, Bills, etc.) this year but ultimately the goal is to go to an explosive offense where he can put up numbers and set himself up for a big final payday this next off-season.

You almost have to think it will be Buffalo or KC at this point.

It may come down to which team offers the ‘better’ incentive laden deal since neither team really has money to spend.
You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think he’s going to get paid and paid well.
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One of the easiest options is bringing Chris Jones to the table and offering him a long-term extension that would lower his cap hit. They could create up to $16 million in salary cap space with that one move alone.

Another option would be for Chiefs’ salary-cap guru Brandt Tillis to create a contract with some void years on it to spread out Hopkins’ cap hit. This is a tactic often used by teams like the New Orleans Saints and Los Angeles Rams, but it runs the risk of hurting the team’s salary cap situation down the line.

Ultimately, Kansas City does still have the means to acquire Hopkins. The big question remaining is whether or not their level of interest in the player has changed since the 2023 NFL draft.
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Yeah. Not happening. He has a role in this offense. Personally, I think some people think it's like Madden where you can just interchange everyone and people don't have specific purposes and roles in scheming.
The only "role" MVS plays on this team is eating a shit ton of cap room and not catching balls.

Dude got paid $9m for 687 yards and 2 TDs in the regular season.
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Because we'd prefer Hopkins, they fill similar roles, and MVS is getting too expensive for his worth.
No they don’t. What the **** are you talking about?
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