***OFFICIAL 2012 KC Chiefs Training Camp Thread***

[Kylo Ren]

Discuss everything Chiefs / training camp related here......

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Mark Cassell sucks!

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Are you serious dude? Quinn shit the bed as a starter. He got his shot and had happy feet. He got rattled. Stanzi hasn't done shit and it's not looking like he will either. He hasn't shown one thing. I don't care where he was drafted. That has nothing to do with it. If he wants to make the team, he better quit worrying about his hair and make some decent reads and complete some passes.

Who cares if Cassel doesn't have the strongest arm? It's not like we have Mike Wallace or Torrey Smith. He can overthrow our WRs with the average arm he has. It's not like we have a ton of elite speed at the position. Furthermore, we now have two TEs to throw it to. Arm strength? Who gives a shit about arm strength in our system? When has Daboll ever had a QB with arm strength?

Cassel's biggest problems have been his leadership and his ability to make plays when they have to be made. He needs to play with the lead and he's ok. He has grown and doesn't stare down WRs as often as he used to. His o-line is now the real deal.

There isn't one guy we could have gotten that's better than Cassel since he's been in KC.

Up until this point, Stanzi is a joke. Being in love with Stanzi is 1,000 times worse than being in love with Tebow. Outside of Iowa, nobody even knows who the **** Stanzi is. He's hanging on by a thread imo.

Happy feet and getting rattled are mental dumbass. Like I said, physically superior. Didn't say Quinn had a head on his shoulders. His other shortcoming is accuracy, something Cassel doesn't have the arm to truly demonstrate either.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

What's the issue Stanzi Nub Rubber?

If you want to talk about Stanzi, feel free to search for and bump any of the numerous intense discussions we've had on this forum about his potential and what he brings to the QB position that we DON'T have on the roster currently. I made a few threads myself on the topic, and have spent HUNDREDS of posts debating why he might be good, or at least why his potential alone is better than Cassel.

The issue is you think McCluster is talented. You think he can "juke players out of their shoes" while Charles can't. And don't tell me I'm taking that out of context, because I'm not. You said those VERY ****ING WORDS, dipshit. Even the part about Charles not being able to juke very well.

People posted gifs where Charles out-juked more defenders on one PLAY than McCluster has in his entire ****ing career. You conveniently ignored all of them, and said "Watch his play at Ole Miss."

I know you think Charles is the better RB. But you also think that McCluster has a different skillset than Charles does, and that he actually does one or two things BETTER than Charles (like use explosive quickness, or "juke defenders out of their shoes").

Jamaal Charles is better than Dexter McCluster in every conceivable fashion except for route running, and really, that's only likely because that's the only thing Dexter has been working on all offseason.

If you disagree even in the SLIGHTEST with the previous sentence, you're a ****ing idiot.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

After the first preseason game, I'll say Stanzi was throwing with as much accuracy and ability to read defenses as any other QB on our depth chart.

Cassel is making two reads in most snaps. His accuracy is good enough but like folks have mentioned, he had elite protection while Stanzi just had pretty good protection.

Quinn, as has been mentioned, looked like ass.

So i finally re-watched the preseason game last night.

The thing about Stanzi is that you can tell he has ass loads of talent. He can seemingly flip his wrist and launch a perfect spiral 20 yards downfield.

But then the following practice, all we hear about is the ball being thrown into the ground.

[ChiefsDJ56]

Originally Posted by -King-

He was also playing AGAINST guys who won't be in the league.

Right. That was my original point. I just threw the part about his WRs so people wouldn't throw that back out me.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by durtyrute

With those takes we should definitely draft someone then. We can call them a bust before they ever start. We can also shit on them after the first 15 games as a starter. "If you can't come in and score 25 pts a game....

We should draft someone every year. Stanzi needs to shit or get off the pot. "Project Players" need to show something to remain "Project Players." It doesn't matter what position they play.

Deeznuts,

Pocket presence is not his biggest problem. He's got good enough presence to win and he's shown that. With a decent o-line and the ability to change plays, he will be better. He changed 7 out of 16 plays on Friday night. Haley didn't let him do this. Haley was holding him back. He's got a good o-line and a ton of weapons. This will be his last shot. I believe he will say "**** it" and just let it rip this year. My only fear is his ability in close games. He's not the least bit clutch and you can't coach that. Every once in a while it comes out in a veteran like it did for Alex Smith last year but, that is very rare.

I bet Cassel has a career year and a new contract by this time next year.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by The Macho Man

So i finally re-watched the preseason game last night.

The thing about Stanzi is that you can tell he has ass loads of talent. He can seemingly flip his wrist and launch a perfect spiral 20 yards downfield.

But then the following practice, all we hear about is the ball being thrown into the ground.

The jump ball he threw to Newsom was perfect.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

He changed 7 out of 16 plays on Friday night. .

Link?

[mcaj22]

i will cry if Cassel earns himself a contract extension I cannot take anymore of him in his first contract let alone adding more years to it

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Who cares if Cassel doesn't have the strongest arm? It's not like we have Mike Wallace or Torrey Smith. He can overthrow our WRs with the average arm he has. It's not like we have a ton of elite speed at the position. Furthermore, we now have two TEs to throw it to. Arm strength? Who gives a shit about arm strength in our system? When has Daboll ever had a QB with arm strength?

Cassel's biggest problems have been his leadership and his ability to make plays when they have to be made. He needs to play with the lead and he's ok. He has grown and doesn't stare down WRs as often as he used to. His o-line is now the real deal.

There isn't one guy we could have gotten that's better than Cassel since he's been in KC.

Up until this point, Stanzi is a joke. Being in love with Stanzi is 1,000 times worse than being in love with Tebow. Outside of Iowa, nobody even knows who the **** Stanzi is. He's hanging on by a thread imo.

So you don't want to take advantage of Baldwins 4.5 speed, size and ability to make plays?

Of course Cassel is fine with a lead, that's when we run the ball dumbass. We won't get leads gifted to us deep in the playoffs.

Stanzi isn't hanging by a thread, reports across the board are about how high on him the Chiefs are. Did you watch the game? What stupid decisions did Stanzi make?

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by SNR

If you want to talk about Stanzi, feel free to search for and bump any of the numerous intense discussions we've had on this forum about his potential and what he brings to the QB position that we DON'T have on the roster currently. I made a few threads myself on the topic, and have spent HUNDREDS of posts debating why he might be good, or at least why his potential alone is better than Cassel.

The issue is you think McCluster is talented. You think he can "juke players out of their shoes" while Charles can't. And don't tell me I'm taking that out of context, because I'm not. You said those VERY ****ING WORDS, dipshit. Even the part about Charles not being able to juke very well.

People posted gifs where Charles out-juked more defenders on one PLAY than McCluster has in his entire ****ing career. You conveniently ignored all of them, and said "Watch his play at Ole Miss."

I know you think Charles is the better RB. But you also think that McCluster has a different skillset than Charles does, and that he actually does one or two things BETTER than Charles (like use explosive quickness, or "juke defenders out of their shoes").

Jamaal Charles is better than Dexter McCluster in every conceivable fashion except for route running, and really, that's only likely because that's the only thing Dexter has been working on all offseason.

If you disagree even in the SLIGHTEST with the previous sentence, you're a ****ing idiot.

They are different types of backs and yes Charles is better. I was talking about different styles. I did state that Charles was better more than once. You are just ignoring it.

Who cares man? I kneel before your superior football mind and formally acknowledge my igonorance fair Sir Naked Raider. Is that a good enough apology for you?

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Pocket awareness? Really? That's pretty out there man.

How so? Cassel has none. Period.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Flowers has a "bruised" foot?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

They are different types of backs and yes Charles is better. I was talking about different styles. I did state that Charles was better more than once. You are just ignoring it.

Who cares man? I kneel before your superior football mind and formally acknowledge my igonorance fair Sir Naked Raider. Is that a good enough apology for you?

Yes. I have an erection. Now kneel down and hold still so I can shoot cum in your face.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by The Macho Man

Link?

Mitch Holthus said it. I can't post links yet.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by SNR

Yes. I have an erection. Now kneel down and hold still so I can shoot cum in your face.

I knew it!