***OFFICIAL 2012 KC Chiefs Training Camp Thread***

[Kylo Ren]

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Mark Cassell sucks!

[milkman]

Originally Posted by aturnis

The blog entry is from Cordell. I believe he goes by or used to go by formerdb on message boards. Twitter handle is @TheFilmRoom, one of the better fan analysts you'll find in Chiefs nation. He went on to tweet this...

[QUOTE ] @TheFilmRoom: I wouldn't take much away from Toribio going with the 1's. Essentially all 3 positions are repping same tech...Poe repping with Dorsey.

[/quote]

I'm familiar with formerdb.

Used to give a lot of camp good insight at the old Star board.

Registered to the Coalition simply to ask questions when he posted his TC observations there.

But the question still remains.

Why are they working Poe at RE?

[RealSNR]

I'm just sick of this "don't beat yourself" philosophy we've had to suffer through ever since Vermeil retired.

When you go to the playoffs, you win by making plays. Period. You don't win by not making bad plays. And that goes for the defense, too. Bend-don't-break can be effective, but if you're not willing to change it up and put the pressure on when you need to, you're going to lose.

I'll gladly take an extra 5-10 INTs at the end of the year if it means we get 5-10 more TDs and 1000 more yards through the air. The kind of numbers Eli Manning has been doing during the regular season from about 2007ish-2010ish would be acceptable. He'll throw picks, but at least he's not afraid to ****ing win. That seems to be the kind of QB Stanzi was at Iowa, and it's the kind of QB that Cassel is NOT.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

@TheFilmRoom
#Chiefs Allen Bailey isn't looking like a 3-down candidate. His feet are too fast...still doesn't have great balance laterally.

Agh. Hope he just needs a few practices to settle down. I have high hopes for Bailey this year.

[aturnis]

I'm familiar with formerdb.

Used to give a lot of camp good insight at the old Star board.

Registered to the Coalition simply to ask questions when he posted his TC observations there.

But the question still remains.

Why are they working Poe at RE?[/QUOTE]

basically what I took from the tweet, is that Poe working there isn't a big deal, they were all working on the same technique.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by SNR

And that goes for the defense, too. Bend-don't-break can be effective, but if you're not willing to change it up and put the pressure on when you need to, you're going to lose.

I'm pretty sure this point was made during the 2010 season by several here, and it bears repeating:

A Matt Cassel offense combined with a bend-don't-break defense is a recipe for disaster.

In games against good teams, that defense is going to bend a lot and then Cassel is going to break it's back like Bane broke Batman's.

[johnny961]

Originally Posted by SNR

I'm just sick of this "don't beat yourself" philosophy we've had to suffer through ever since Vermeil retired.

When you go to the playoffs, you win by making plays. Period. You don't win by not making bad plays. And that goes for the defense, too. Bend-don't-break can be effective, but if you're not willing to change it up and put the pressure on when you need to, you're going to lose.

I'll gladly take an extra 5-10 INTs at the end of the year if it means we get 5-10 more TDs and 1000 more yards through the air. The kind of numbers Eli Manning has been doing during the regular season from about 2007ish-2010ish would be acceptable. He'll throw picks, but at least he's not afraid to ****ing win. That seems to be the kind of QB Stanzi was at Iowa, and it's the kind of QB that Cassel is NOT.

I would like to see our offense have at least enough of a deep threat to keep opposing defenses honest. Keep those safeties back. The attack needs to be balanced enough that defenses cannot just zero in on our run game. And I don't think Cassel has the accuracy to make this happen.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I'm pretty sure this point was made during the 2010 season by several here, and it bears repeating:

A Matt Cassel offense combined with a bend-don't-break defense is a recipe for disaster.

In games against good teams, that defense is going to bend a lot and then Cassel is going to break it's back like Bane broke Batman's.

Spoilerz!11

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by johnny961

And I don't think Cassel has the accuracy to make this happen.

He will be there in Joplin, or visiting the sick kids with a genuine smile on his face, thats worthy of my real respect.

But those two embarrassingly bad gifs of happy feet & total inablity to step into a throw for accuracy & distance against one man rush pressure, are further proof that he is best cast as #2.

[Hammock Parties]

Steve Maneri ‏@stevemaneri
Day 2 in the books...pads come on tomorrow...it's been too long since I hit somebody #cantwait

[RealSNR]

If Matt is really good at charity shit, I'd be glad to give him the job of KC Wolf. Put him in a job where he can succeed.

[johnny961]

Originally Posted by scott free

He will be there in Joplin, or visiting the sick kids with a genuine smile on his face, thats worthy of my real respect.

But those two embarrassingly bad gifs of happy feet & total inablity to step into a throw for accuracy & distance against one man rush pressure, are further proof that he is best cast as #2.

I am not as well versed as some of you in QB mechanics but to me anyway it looks like a good number of his completed passes are off target. Hence all the highlight reel catches by Bowe. And I do think alot of it is he panics under pressure. Maybe a new HC and off coordinator will help but I'm not holding my breath on it.

[MMXcalibur]

Not that too many head coach press conferences are exhilarating material, but I enjoy listening to Crennel much more than I do Haley. He's a lot more open to talking and I get the feeling that he's not "hiding" anything.

EDIT: I'm not kidding myself. Pioli's in charge, so I'm sure there's a ton of shit being hidden....like there are aliens under Arrowhead.

[In58men]

Originally Posted by SNR

If Matt is really good at charity shit, I'd be glad to give him the job of KC Wolf. Put him in a job where he can succeed.

[chefsos]

Originally Posted by johnny961

I am not as well versed as some of you in QB mechanics but to me anyway it looks like a good number of his completed passes are off target. Hence all the highlight reel catches by Bowe. And I do think alot of it is he panics under pressure. Maybe a new HC and off coordinator will help but I'm not holding my breath on it.

Yeah, the guy's 30 now. New HC, OC, MD, FEMDOM, doesn't matter any more. He is what he is. And that's the extent of my Cassel bashing here.

[kcxiv]

Trent green didn't shine until he was 30. Just saying. I don't like cassel as a Qb though