Chiefs Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell - Page 26

RunKC · 09-14-2016, 08:25 AM

Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

WOW

staylor26 · 09-14-2016, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Were any of those players cut in Week 1 of their rookie seasons, or were they given a shot and then cut?

You're extremely butthurt over this. We have 4 talented young corners. Just pretend White was the 3rd round pick, and Russell was the 6th rounder. Who cares what round anybody was drafted in at this point? It's over. Our rookie class is still very promising even after cutting our 3rd rounder. Has Dorsey not earned the benefit of the doubt?

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-14-2016, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CapsLockKey

Chiefs threw numbers at the cb position. Russell is simply the odd man out thanks to the trade for Acker and DJ White earning his active roster spot. I'm glad the Chiefs made the decision based on what they saw on the field rather than their draft position. I see this more as an indication of how much DJ White has pleasantly surprised and confidence in Gaines health than Russell being a terrible player.

Teams don't cut "good players" after drafting them in the 3rd round of their rookie season.

Russell clearly stated he was having problems with the terminology and playbook, to which Andy Reid confirmed today, along with the reports of an oversized ego.

It would have been nice to see him become an effective player for the Chiefs but now that he's cut, I couldn't give a **** about him.

**gblowfish** · 09-14-2016, 03:28 PM

I think Dorsey knows what he's doing. Yeah, Dee Ford was a questionable first round pick, but for the most part, Dorsey's been pretty damn good on talent evaluation. Thank God we're not picking up candy wrappers for Fat Scott any longer!

CapsLockKey · 09-14-2016, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Ehinger is a 4th round rookie that's been given a chance to start at left guard and grow into the position. He's played one professional game and while he needs to increase his strength, it's better that he gain experience than to sit on the bench.

Steve Smith, Wes Welker and countless other slot receivers disagree

Hell Antonio Brown, the best receiver in the league is only 5'10". OBJ is only an inch taller.

OldSchool · 09-14-2016, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Hopefully we are trading for Sean Smith.

Gaines and Nelson both had a better first game than Smith.

RunKC · 09-14-2016, 03:32 PM

Remember the Cowboys draft board leak? They had Russell as a 3rd rd player. I bet they would take him.

They are 4th of the waiver wire.

Mr. Laz · 09-14-2016, 03:32 PM

DJ White is one of the few young guy in our secondary that has shown flashes.

Not counting Peters of course, who is still young.

Nelson might be competent but haven't seen anything other than JAG stuff.

White has made some pretty decent plays that looks like he might be a starting guy.

White has done stupid stuff as well but he has a chance.

kccrow · 09-14-2016, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Ehinger is a 4th round rookie that's been given a chance to start at left guard and grow into the position. He's played one professional game and while he needs to increase his strength, it's better that he gain experience than to sit on the bench.

Steve Smith, Wes Welker and countless other slot receivers disagree

Thus the word "seldom." You've just named 2 of about 10 in the NFL under 5'10".

Hoover · 09-14-2016, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Gaines and Nelson both had a better first game than Smith.

Yep, but we know Smith, and he knows our system.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-14-2016, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You're extremely butthurt over this. We have 4 talented young corners. Just pretend White was the 3rd round pick, and Russell was the 6th rounder. Who cares what round anybody was drafted in at this point? It's over. Our rookie class is still very promising even after cutting our 3rd rounder. Has Dorsey not earned the benefit of the doubt?

8 posts out of 380 is "extremely butthurt"?

Ok, noob.

I do, however, find it comical that the same people that are defending Dorsey here and calling Russel; trash are the same ones that defend players like Dee Ford, Ehinger, etc and say "they need time" or they are "growing into the position."

It's a complete waste of draft capital to just walk away after a week, but then again, I'm arguing with someone who thinks DAT has value on this team when Hill does the same thing and does it better.

This place never disappoints.

staylor26 · 09-14-2016, 03:37 PM

Yea if Hill doesn't pan out it's not going to be because he's an inch too short. The guy has a 40 1/2 inch vert, and is solid as ****.

I mean, we're talking about the same guy that didn't even have Henry in his top 5 or 10 RB's.

aturnis · 09-14-2016, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

Don't be surprised to see them try to add a pass rusher and not a corner.

This. The linebacking corp is in dire need of help.

DJ's left nut · 09-14-2016, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Hopefully we are trading for Sean Smith.

Oakland structured that deal in a way that makes bringing him back fairly unpalatable.

His contract isn't signing bonus heavy; it has a fair amount of roster bonus and guaranteed salary in there. So if you deal for him, you take on the bulk of that contract (whereas if it were signing bonus heavy, that money would end up on Oakland's cap, not ours).

CapsLockKey · 09-14-2016, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Teams don't cut "good players" after drafting them in the 3rd round of their rookie season.

Russell clearly stated he was having problems with the terminology and playbook, to which Andy Reid confirmed today, along with the reports of an oversized ego.

It would have been nice to see him become an effective player for the Chiefs but now that he's cut, I couldn't give a **** about him.

I'm not saying he's good, but he may not be trash either. After Sundays game they made a decision to exchange an additional pass rusher over CB. Chiefs apparently saw more potential and immediate help in Nelson, Gaines, Acker and White.

From what he's shown in preseason he's PS material right now. Any team that claims him will be eating an active roster spot for someone that probably won't hit the field this year. Nothing like an Irving situation where he looked like he could contribute for someone right away, and did.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-14-2016, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Thus the word "seldom." You've just named 2 of about 10 in the NFL under 5'10".

And as mentioned, Antonio Brown is 5'10 and possibly the best WR in NFL.

Golden Tate, Jamison Crowder, Julian Edelman on and on and on.

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