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Old 07-26-2012, 08:51 AM  
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Mark Cassell sucks!

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Old 08-14-2012, 02:44 PM   #3976
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****ing christ why are people arguing about this?
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:45 PM   #3977
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I'm not so sure about that. If everything were the same, Cassel would still have happy feet while Stanzi wouldn't. Cassel would still be king check down, while Stanzi wouldn't. Stanzi would still stand tall in the pocket while Cassel wouldn't. Stanzi would be more accurate while Cassel would keep hitting goal posts.

I don't think he is the second coming or anything, I just want the kid to get a shot. I don't believe Cassel can take us to the promise land. After three years, I've seen enough. If we are just throwing out chances, on back ups that never played in college, then we can give Stanzi three years too.

I agree with that, but I don't think this is the year to give him his shot. I think he will get his shot soon. if Cassel blows this year, then I think next year is Stanzi.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:46 PM   #3978
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****ing christ why are people arguing about this?
Because this thread is already a pile of shit, so adding on more won't hurt.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:46 PM   #3979
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Am I? Or did Baltimore sign Grbac and let the QB that just won them a Superbowl walk? Was Grbac the highest paid free agent that year? Was he in demand? Yeah, he was a jackass but he was decent.

You guys sit here and tell me that where a QB is drafted doesn't matter and then turn around and say a guy who played in the pro bowl hasn't done shit? I know the pro bowl voting is flawed but what about wins? Winning is what it's about right?
If you actually called your football takes like you see them, you wouldn't give a shit about Pro Bowls and regular season wins and all that ****ing garbage.

You would watch the games. You would watch the players. You would watch the QBs.

You would see that Cassel can't be effective unless ALL of his offensive teammates are doing their jobs. One tiny thing goes wrong, and KABLOOIE! He explodes and turns into a big pile of suck.

He's mentally fragile. He doesn't have a good QB clock. He doesn't see the field very well. He's erratic in his throws if they aren't under perfect, ideal conditions. He REFUSES to even TRY throwing his receivers open. He has terrible timing. The only downfield throws he can make are jump balls.

You would see all of those things by watching him play, and would realize what a ****ing farce his "pretty good" Pro Bowl year was.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:47 PM   #3980
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When did I say it was stupid? I said it was stupid to call it a TD with Bowe and Baldwin like Bosschief/Aturnis are doing.
Maybe you should watch the slow motion replay from a better camera angle after the play. And do it from something other than your phone.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:54 PM   #3981
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I agree with that, but I don't think this is the year to give him his shot. I think he will get his shot soon. if Cassel blows this year, then I think next year is Stanzi.
I can live with that.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:56 PM   #3982
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If you actually called your football takes like you see them, you wouldn't give a shit about Pro Bowls and regular season wins and all that ****ing garbage.

You would watch the games. You would watch the players. You would watch the QBs.

You would see that Cassel can't be effective unless ALL of his offensive teammates are doing their jobs. One tiny thing goes wrong, and KABLOOIE! He explodes and turns into a big pile of suck.

He's mentally fragile. He doesn't have a good QB clock. He doesn't see the field very well. He's erratic in his throws if they aren't under perfect, ideal conditions. He REFUSES to even TRY throwing his receivers open. He has terrible timing. The only downfield throws he can make are jump balls.

You would see all of those things by watching him play, and would realize what a ****ing farce his "pretty good" Pro Bowl year was.
I've seen all that. I said he was just ok. He has won enough games to be dubbed "OK." He's is far and away our best option. I understand that many KC fans hate him but, he's all we've got. The other two QBs are really bad.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:57 PM   #3983
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Maybe you should watch the slow motion replay from a better camera angle after the play. And do it from something other than your phone.
I'm watching it on my DVR.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:59 PM   #3984
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Here's the video I recorded of it.



Hell, taking physics into account, there's no way he could land where he landed without being pushed somehow.
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:08 PM   #3985
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Hell, taking physics into account, there's no way he could land where he landed without being pushed somehow.
Now the slow motion replay with the better angle...
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:10 PM   #3986
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Hell, taking physics into account, there's no way he could land where he landed without being pushed somehow.
You don't want to say there's no way.

There clearly was a way. He didn't miss by much.

It just would have been really, really difficult. Which is what you get your Bowes and Baldwins for.
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You don't want to say there's no way.

There clearly was a way. He didn't miss by much.

It just would have been really, really difficult. Which is what you get your Bowes and Baldwins for.
And Peterson would do a MUCH better job on the force out.
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