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**DaKCMan AP** · 06-20-2006, 10:14 AM

New US church leader says homosexuality no sin

Mon Jun 19, 3:50 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Newly elected leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said on Monday she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender.

Jefferts Schori, bishop of the Diocese of Nevada, was elected on Sunday as the first woman leader of the 2.3 million-member Episcopal Church. the U.S. branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion. She will formally take office later this year.

Interviewed on CNN, Jefferts Schori was asked if it was a sin to be homosexual.

"I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said.

"Some people come into this world with affections ordered toward other people of the same gender and some people come into this world with affections directed at people of the other gender."

Jefferts Schori's election seemed certain to exacerbate splits within a Episcopal Church that is already deeply divided over homosexuality with several dioceses and parishes threatening to break away.

It could also widen divisions with other Anglican communities, including the Church of England, which do not allow women bishops. In the worldwide Anglican church women are bishops only in Canada, the United States and New Zealand.

Three years ago when the Church last met in convention, a majority of U.S. bishops backed the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The Robinson issue has been particularly criticized in Africa where the church has a growing membership and where homosexuality is often taboo.

Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters, supported the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The 52-year-old bishop is married to Richard Schori, a retired theoretical mathematician. They have one daughter, Katharine Johanna, 24, a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and a pilot like her mother.

Asked how she reconciled her position on homosexuality with specific passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions.

"The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said.

"The Bible tells us about how to treat other human beings, and that's certainly the great message of Jesus -- to include the unincluded."

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**luv** · 06-22-2006, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

Bah, if someone rolls theirs eyes when I talk about something close to me then let them roll their eyes.

No reason not to go through life deliberately. Tip toeing my way through this world adjusting what I do to other people's opinions? Yuck.

People reactions won't stop me from living the way I believe, I just choose not to openly talk about it.

**BigMeatballDave** · 06-22-2006, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

My girl is Bi.

You lucky bastard!

|Zach| · 06-22-2006, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by luv

People reactions won't stop me from living the way I believe, I just choose not to openly talk about it.

Yes, I don't believe that could change your fundamental beliefs...

But as someone who has read alot of your posts over a good period of time. You seem to spend a lot of time worrying about other people's opinions and then forming your own after that or acting on something. Either that or putting a disclaimer on all your opinions as if they are less valuable or more valuable after guaging how many people do or dont agree with them.

Not an attack at all...

burt · 06-22-2006, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Logical

That is very easy, Switzerland meets your criteria without the use of violence.

Logic, I was under the impression that every family with an able male HAS to have 1 male in the military....and MOST homes have a semi automatic in it, because it has a member in the militia. If that is true...which I don't feel impelled to prove or dis prove...it is the threat of violence......oh and I hear the Swiss are tough muthers....

**Rausch** · 06-22-2006, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

Yet there is a need to feel on the defensive?

Nobody can make you prove anything. You put yourself in that position.

My penis is huge.

It's an empiracle certainty.

Well, based on the English system of measurement...

**luv** · 06-22-2006, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

Yes, I don't believe that could change your fundamental beliefs...

But as someone who has read alot of your posts over a good period of time. You seem to spend a lot of time worrying about other people's opinions and then forming your own after that or acting on something. Either that or putting a disclaimer on all your opinions as if they are less valuable or more valuable after guaging how many people do or dont agree with them.

Not an attack at all...

I'm a people pleaser with pretty low self-esteem. Something I'm working to overcome. I can be moody, too. There are times when I couldn't care less what other people say. Then there are times when what others say or think really seem to matter. I've just always been that way.

|Zach| · 06-22-2006, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by luv

I'm a people pleaser with pretty low self-esteem. Something I'm working to overcome. I can be moody, too. There are times when I couldn't care less what other people say. Then there are times when what others say or think really seem to matter. I've just always been that way.

I hope you can find your way through that and live more deliberately. Everyone has their challanges. I just think it would be tough to go any other way. Really tough.

Moooo · 06-22-2006, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by luv

I'm a people pleaser with pretty low self-esteem. Something I'm working to overcome. I can be moody, too. There are times when I couldn't care less what other people say. Then there are times when what others say or think really seem to matter. I've just always been that way.

Its a personality trait. About 1 of 5 people match it.

There are plus sides. I bet you are great at cooling a situation down, and keeping a level head.

Moooo

**Rausch** · 06-22-2006, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Logical

That is very easy, Switzerland meets your criteria without the use of violence.

If you fund Nazi Germany you don't count...

burt · 06-22-2006, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

My penis is huge.

It's an empiracle certainty.

Well, based on the English system of measurement...

Dude.....it's "My pen is huge."

**luv** · 06-22-2006, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

I hope you can find your way through that and live more deliberately. Everyone has their challanges. I just think it would be tough to go any other way. Really tough.

I'm still trying to find a happy medium. Being in supervision at work has helped me a lot. Some things have to be said or done that aren't gonna please everyone (or anyone) all the time.

I like making others happy, I just need to focus a little of that on thinking that I deserve to be just as happy.

Logical · 06-22-2006, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

If you fund Nazi Germany you don't count...

Switzerland was banker to the world, they did not choose a side. So I tend to disagree.

**Rausch** · 06-22-2006, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

Bah, if someone rolls theirs eyes when I talk about something close to me then let them roll their eyes.

No reason not to go through life deliberately. Tip toeing my way through this world adjusting what I do to other people's opinions? Yuck.

Human Translation: It's what I believe, if you don't like it go suck-off a bull with anthrax...

**Rausch** · 06-22-2006, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Logical

Switzerland was banker to the world, they did not choose a side. So I tend to disagree.

It's how they became neutral...

**luv** · 06-22-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Moooo

Its a personality trait. About 1 of 5 people match it.

There are plus sides. I bet you are great at cooling a situation down, and keeping a level head.

Moooo

Generally, but I'm a reactor as well. Something pisses me off, and I get the chance to respond right away, it's not usually pleasant. If I can remove myself from the situation though, it doesn't take long to cool myself down. You have no clue how many posts I've started to write, but then deleted after thinking it through.

06-20-2006, 10:14 AM
DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $5624952	New US church leader says homosexuality no sin New US church leader says homosexuality no sin Mon Jun 19, 3:50 PM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Newly elected leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said on Monday she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender. Jefferts Schori, bishop of the Diocese of Nevada, was elected on Sunday as the first woman leader of the 2.3 million-member Episcopal Church. the U.S. branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion. She will formally take office later this year. Interviewed on CNN, Jefferts Schori was asked if it was a sin to be homosexual. "I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said. "Some people come into this world with affections ordered toward other people of the same gender and some people come into this world with affections directed at people of the other gender." Jefferts Schori's election seemed certain to exacerbate splits within a Episcopal Church that is already deeply divided over homosexuality with several dioceses and parishes threatening to break away. It could also widen divisions with other Anglican communities, including the Church of England, which do not allow women bishops. In the worldwide Anglican church women are bishops only in Canada, the United States and New Zealand. Three years ago when the Church last met in convention, a majority of U.S. bishops backed the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history. The Robinson issue has been particularly criticized in Africa where the church has a growing membership and where homosexuality is often taboo. Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters, supported the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history. The 52-year-old bishop is married to Richard Schori, a retired theoretical mathematician. They have one daughter, Katharine Johanna, 24, a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and a pilot like her mother. Asked how she reconciled her position on homosexuality with specific passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions. "The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said. "The Bible tells us about how to treat other human beings, and that's certainly the great message of Jesus -- to include the unincluded." http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060619/...HBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-
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