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Old 07-21-2006, 08:32 PM  
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Dakota Fanning to be raped onscreen
This is disturbing. I hope people boycott this movie because there's no need for crap like this.


Dakota, 12, to star in 'disturbing paedophile film'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1773

Child actress Dakota Fanning will appear in a controversial new movie featuring paedophile scenes.

War of the Worlds star Dakota, 12, has signed up to appear in Hounddog.

The screenplay calls for Fanning's character to be raped in one explicit scene and to appear naked or clad only in "underpants" in several other horrifying moments.

A source close to the film said: "The two taboos in Hollywood are child abuse and the killing of animals.

"In this movie, both things happen." Fanning's mother, Joy, and her Hollywood agent, Cindy Osbrink, see the movie, written and directed by Deborah Kampmeier, as a possible Oscar vehicle for the pint-size star.

But despite Fanning's status as a bankable actress - whose movies, including last year's War of the Worlds have earned more than half a billion dollars since 2001 - the alarming material seems to have scared off potential investors, according to the New York Daily News.

The film charts the life of a girl who is abused and finds solace in the music of Elvis Presley.

Fanning's carefully choreographed rape scene has already been filmed. But then the production - which also stars Robin Wright Penn, David Morse and Piper Laurie - was stopped because of a lack of money.

But emergency investors were found and the movie is set to be finished by the end of the week.

"It's not just the rape scene - the whole story is challenging Dakota as an actress," Fanning's agent, Osbrink, said.

"And I've never been so proud of her in my life. In every scene she gets better and better."
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:37 AM   #391
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See, I'm not that way. I only "like" a movie if it instills in me a POSITIVE emotional response - the laughter produced by a comedy or the sense of justice produced by an old-fashioned Good vs. Evil story.

I just don't watch movies anymore. If I have to think about it, or "examine my inner self", or walk away from the movie feeling disgusted, depressed, or both, that's the ANTITHESIS of "entertainment".
Good point, but maybe the point of the documentary of people having sex with horses isn't supposed to entertain.

Art isn't just about entertainment.

Last night I watched Triumph of the Will with a group of people. We discussed it afterwards. We liked it, maybe we hated it for liking it, but it created a response within us.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:39 AM   #392
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Good point, but maybe the point of the documentary of people having sex with horses isn't supposed to entertain.

Art isn't just about entertainment.

Last night I watched Triumph of the Will with a group of people. We discussed it afterwards. We liked it, maybe we hated it for liking it, but it created a response within us.
You can't tell me a documentary about people having sex with horses is about ART either.

Film is, and always has been, a vehicle for advancing agendas.

Sorry, but if I want to LEARN something, I'll pick up a book.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:42 AM   #393
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You cannot... repeat CANNOT... make a judgment on a movie you have not seen. How can you imply that the movie would be the same without the scene in question?
the hell I can't...I don't need to watch this to know that I won't endorse a twelve year old being raped on film..implied or not.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:43 AM   #394
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Well Parker...Tonight, a guy IS bringing a shetland pony thats very docile to their party to help them live the experience.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:44 AM   #395
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Well Parker...Tonight, a guy IS bringing a shetland pony thats very docile to their party to help them live the experience.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:46 AM   #396
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You can't tell me a documentary about people having sex with horses is about ART either.

Film is, and always has been, a vehicle for advancing agendas.

Sorry, but if I want to LEARN something, I'll pick up a book.
And books have no agenda?

I haven't heard of the horse movie. I don't want to see it. I don't care about it one bit. But if I had a guess, I would say it's probably like grizzly man.

Now, what is art is a question for ages. What about the filming of a girl's eye being sliced open by a knife?

And I'm also on the side that her parents are probably not thinking about Dakota Fanning's development as an child and probably care about money and fame. No way would I ever let my daughter be this close to simulated rape.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:49 AM   #397
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And books have no agenda?

I haven't heard of the horse movie. I don't want to see it. I don't care about it one bit. But if I had a guess, I would say it's probably like grizzly man.

Now, what is art is a question for ages. What about the filming of a girl's eye being sliced open by a knife?

And I'm also on the side that her parents are probably not thinking about Dakota Fanning's development as an adult and probably care about money and fame. No way would I ever let my daughter be close to simulated rape.
Books can certainly have agendas. I already stated as much.
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Good point, but maybe the point of the documentary of people having sex with horses isn't supposed to entertain.

Art isn't just about entertainment.

Last night I watched Triumph of the Will with a group of people. We discussed it afterwards. We liked it, maybe we hated it for liking it, but it created a response within us.
Just thought this ought to be repeated.

Jenson, you're wise beyond your years.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:57 AM   #399
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the hell I can't...I don't need to watch this to know that I won't endorse a twelve year old being raped on film..implied or not.
I didn't for one second say you had to endorse it. I said you can't judge that scene as worthless or not needed in the movie without seeing it in context.

Not only have you not seen the scene in the context of the film, I'd wager a bet that you haven't seen it at all.
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Just thought this ought to be repeated.

Jenson, you're wise beyond your years.
Punching a total stranger in the face creates an emotional response...should we subject ourselves to that too?

At what point have we crossed a boundary? And I'm not talking about decency, I'm talking about necessity. Why is there a NEED for this stuff?
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I didn't for one second say you had to endorse it. I said you can't judge that scene as worthless or not needed in the movie without seeing it in context.

Not only have you not seen the scene in the context of the film, I'd wager a bet that you haven't seen it at all.
and I never will...

I don't need a visual to have empathy or be appalled about a rape victim...especially when I have two girls..ages 13 and 10.

I wonder how many in the audience would be pedophiles.
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Further proof that Hollywood will do anything for a buck.

No wonder movies are such garbage.
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Further proof that Hollywood will do anything for a buck.

No wonder movies are such garbage.

No... the reason movies are such garbage is because people go in droves to things like Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle and Dude, Where's My Car? instead of watching things that make them use their minds.

Hollywood will do anything for a buck, however I don't imagine this movie will make a ton of money. And SINCE H-town will do anything for a buck, they will make the movies the audiences go to in droves. Which is why we get movies like Nightmare on Elm Street 13, Jason X, and Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift.

When LCD audiences demand better movies, the cinemas will deliver them.
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and I never will...

I don't need a visual to have empathy or be appalled about a rape victim...especially when I have two girls..ages 13 and 10.

I wonder how many in the audience would be pedophiles.
Agreed.
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No... the reason movies are such garbage is because people go in droves to things like Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle and Dude, Where's My Car? instead of watching things that make them use their minds.

Hollywood will do anything for a buck, however I don't imagine this movie will make a ton of money. And SINCE H-town will do anything for a buck, they will make the movies the audiences go to in droves. Which is why we get movies like Nightmare on Elm Street 13, Jason X, and Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift.

When LCD audiences demand better movies, the cinemas will deliver them.
Which is exactly why I hardly ever go to the theater any more. None of those titles you mentioned made me say "ooh, I gotta go to the theater to catch that flick".
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