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Old 01-10-2011, 10:47 AM  
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Fescoe: Haley took playcalling away from Weis in 2nd Half
Just got a 610 text that says Fescoe is reporting that Haley took playcalling away from Weis in the 2nd half yesterday. That could explain why the playcalling was so horrific in the 2nd half, and if true I think Haley should be in some hot water. That was some of the worst playcalling I have ever seen in my entire life.
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:41 PM   #391
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Meanwhile, what I'm mainly concerned about is that we need a nose tackle and some magic dust to sprinkle on Cassel's balls.

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Old 01-11-2011, 02:42 PM   #392
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Oh I agree with this...I think we need an OC, I just don't mind Haley calling the plays.
Haley earned his reputation as being the best play caller in the NFL. His work in the 4th Q with Arizona was awsome and almost got them the win.
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:46 PM   #393
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Haley earned his reputation as being the best play caller in the NFL. His work in the 4th Q with Arizona was awsome and almost got them the win.
You just need a HOF QB and WR.
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:51 PM   #394
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You just need a HOF QB and WR.
well Warner was left for dead when he came to Arizona...

that hall of fame WR kind of resurrected Warner from the dead...

wouldn't mind seeing if he could help Cassel turn a corner
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:53 PM   #395
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You just need a HOF QB and WR.
No shit.

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And no, that's not a Shaun Smith joke.
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:59 PM   #396
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Oddly enough, none of this would likely be a topic of discussion had Weis put the team first and requested that all parties involved keep their mouths shut about his impending departure. Whether it had any bearing on outcomes or not, it was most certainly a distraction this young team did not need the past two weeks. There is absolutely zero reason that Florida and Weis could not have postponed this process until his work in KC was completed. "I am definitely interested in the position, but would prefer to finish my work here before discussing it further." likely would have been enough "team effort" to eliminate all possible speculation and potential distraction.
Hmmm. That might be true if you know the Chiefs are a one-and-done team. But if the Chiefs go on to win a round or two of the playoffs, you're suggesting that the new Florida regime withhold potentially valuable recruiting information for quite a while. I know if I were a QB being recruited to Florida, I'd be interested in what kind of offensive coaching staff this new defense-oriented head coach was going to put together.
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Old 01-11-2011, 03:32 PM   #397
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I don't think this is fair, Mr. FAX.

Haley said, directly, the he'll consider calling plays in '11. People are going to react. It's not like we're getting this information second-hand from the local pizza joint.
He said it in an "all options are on the table" manner. It was a non-answer answer.
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Old 01-11-2011, 03:35 PM   #398
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He said it in an "all options are on the table" manner. It was a non-answer answer.
Fine. Maybe this is part of the bullshit mantra of everything needing to be super secret at 1 Arrowhead, lest the communists learn that we're trying to win football games.

Some questions, however, can get a direct answer.

The question about the OC, IMO, is the same as asking Haley, "Are you dumb as ****?"

Haley's response, "Well, we're going to evaluate this thing and try to reach a conclusion."
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You just need a HOF QB and WR.
I hate this chicken or egg type argument.

Do you suppose Bill Belicheck would be the coach he is today if he didn't have Tom Brady?
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I hate this chicken or egg type argument.

Do you suppose Bill Belicheck would be the coach he is today if he didn't have Tom Brady?
Maybe not, but he had a long, glorious track record as a coach. Haley was pretty much a one year wonder. I'm fine with Haley in any case, but I find the stuff being said about Weis to be pretty unpalatable. Weis is far more proven than Haley.
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:00 PM   #401
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to be honest...

I wish Crennel would leave, too...

He's competent, no doubt about it...but we have some guys (Berry, Arenas) who can flat out get to the passer and provide a little energy/playmaking ability to the game...

but instead we just sit back and play that "bend don't break" bullshit...

which cost us the momentum and the game in the 1st half when we let them score with 10 seconds to go...

3rd and 12 conversions...same old story every year...

playoff teams and playoff defenses don't give up easy 3rd and longs to the Baltimore Ravens...we did.

I was as unhappy with Crennel as I was with Weis/Haley...

that was some pussy ass defense and a pussy ass gameplan
you do realize that we didnt have much choice but to play that way this year. That was the ONLY way we were going to be successful. We have 1 good defensive lineman in Dorsey. He played his ass off, after that, that was it. We had to sell out on the things the other guys do best, we just didnt have the Talent. I hope Jax playes better next year, he shined at times towards the end of the year, i hope he has that 3rd year turn around next year. We had only 1 pass rusher thats it.


Crennel did what was in the best interest of the team this year. We need some push up the midde in the worst way.

Crennel didnt do anything exotic because he couldnt and he didnt have the players.

Just remember how shitty we were the previous 10 years and the stride they made in just 1 ****ing year.
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well Warner was left for dead when he came to Arizona...

that hall of fame WR kind of resurrected Warner from the dead...

wouldn't mind seeing if he could help Cassel turn a corner
Brady had a terrific year with Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney as his #1 and #2
Brees once had a WR corps so depleted, Terrence Copper was a starter
While Peyton has Reggie Wayne, he was on, what, his 20th string WR?

Good QBs make average WRs great. We shouldn't have to line this roster up with superstars in order to get production out of the most important player on the field.
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No shit.

Hard to lose playing poker when you're holding the nuts.

And no, that's not a Shaun Smith joke.
I remember people on this board laughing at Arizona for going with the washed-up Warner over Leinart. Warner's career was resurrected in Arizona, and some of credit has to go to Haley, I'd think.
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Brady had a terrific year with Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney as his #1 and #2
Brees once had a WR corps so depleted, Terrence Copper was a starter
While Peyton has Reggie Wayne, he was on, what, his 20th string WR?

Good QBs make average WRs great. We shouldn't have to line this roster up with superstars in order to get production out of the most important player on the field.
Excellent post.
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I remember people on this board laughing at Arizona for going with the washed-up Warner over Leinart. Warner's career was resurrected in Arizona, and some of credit has to go to Haley, I'd think.
You're comparing resurrecting the career of a SB MVP and a sure fire HOF QB to trying to turn a career backup into the next Tom Brady.

Warner had the skills. He had proven it.

Cassel hasn't proved anything, other than that he can beat up on the Topeka School for the Deaf and Blind.
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