Chiefs Arrowhead anxiety: Turnover off the field causes concern - Page 27

Dr. Gigglepants · 01-14-2012, 11:42 PM

Secrecy, intimidation, fear and a watchful eye have become hallmarks of working for the Chiefs, say some current and former employees.

BY KENT BABB THE KANSAS CITY STAR

Todd Haley walked into the public relations office at Chiefs headquarters on a Thursday in early December. Four days before he was fired as the team’s coach, he wanted to talk about what life was like inside this organization. But he didn’t know who else might be listening.

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This article goes into a lot of detail on the changes that came into effect with the Pioli regime. Sounds like a shitty ass place to work now.

DRU · 01-15-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

What if we hire some Patriot position coach, sign 2 or 3 no-name FAs like last year, and approach the draft like 2009?

Nothing about this is fun right now.

What if we hire some exciting name for OC that every here loves, pick up a solid right tackle in free agency, re-sign carr and bowe, and bring in a QB that will actually beat Cassel in a straight up competition no matter where he comes from?

None of know what's going to happen, so we're focusing on this kinda crap. It's sad, really.

Messier · 01-15-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

What if we hire some exciting name for OC that every here loves, pick up a solid right tackle in free agency, re-sign carr and bowe, and bring in a QB that will actually beat Cassel in a straight up competition no matter where he comes from?

None of know what's going to happen, so we're focusing on this kinda crap. It's sad, really.

It is true that while it seems boring, the Chiefs have been really good at retaining their own good players.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-15-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

What if we hire some exciting name for OC that every here loves, pick up a solid right tackle in free agency, re-sign carr and bowe, and bring in a QB that will actually beat Cassel in a straight up competition no matter where he comes from?

None of know what's going to happen, so we're focusing on this kinda crap. It's sad, really.

Yeah, that's all great to think about.

I think about winning the lottery, and retiring at 32, but much like your hopes, mine aren't coming true either.

We're focusing on these things because this organization is garbage, run by inept assholes.

Hammock Parties · 01-15-2012, 06:57 PM

Don't forget about the huge depth issues plaguing the team.

htismaqe · 01-15-2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

What if we hire some exciting name for OC that every here loves, pick up a solid right tackle in free agency, re-sign carr and bowe, and bring in a QB that will actually beat Cassel in a straight up competition no matter where he comes from?

None of know what's going to happen, so we're focusing on this kinda crap. It's sad, really.

We don't know what's going to happen, no.

But we do have past history to draw upon.

He hired Haley, who worked for Parcells. He hired Weis. He hired Crennel and then promoted him. Right now I see ZERO reason to hope that he hires some exciting name for OC. Past history suggests he's going to hire some Patriot/Parcells cast-off.

Mr. Laz · 01-15-2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

It use to be Cassel and Jackson, but Jackson doesn't seem like such a bust, so now it's just Cassel.

i know ... until the Chiefs win in the playoffs and gives them no choice or Cassel is gone it will be one lame ass reason after another.

Hey, i want to win too.

I realize Pioli made 2 big mistakes to start off. 1) he hired Haley 2) he signed Cassel to a big contract instead of looking for an elite type guy.

Haley is gone
Jackson turned out to be decent

If Stanzi turns out to be something or they make a change with Cassel then Pioli has done a pretty solid job.

Fyi - if we would of done what the dumbass crew wanted we would be stuck with shitty overpaid Sanchez instead of shitty overpaid Cassel. So just grabbing whatever QB shows up in the draft is not the answer.

DRU · 01-15-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Yeah, that's all great to think about.

I think about winning the lottery, and retiring at 32, but much like your hopes, mine aren't coming true either.

We're focusing on these things because this organization is garbage, run by inept assholes.

He was talking about one extreme (the negative) and I was talking about the other (the positive). I think we all know we'll probably fall somewhere in the middle.

If you're so unhappy with this organization, why do you continue to support it? You may be talking shit on it, but you're still supporting it with your emotions and the fact that you buy and resell tix all the time, especially considering you usually lose money on them.

Maybe you've already said this in another thread, but are you officially giving up your tix?

oldman · 01-15-2012, 07:02 PM

I'll only address the electronic surveillance issues. First of all, there is no way other than a physical plant in a cell phone, for a private person or company to monitor (tap) a cell phone. It has to be done at the switch or by monitoring all the traffic in that carrier's broadcast. Both of these require a warrant. Monitoring company telephones is legal as long as the employee is aware that that might happen or if the other party is given notice. Many companies now require the employee to acknowledge that in writing every year in their code of conduct review. The non-employee party is given notice by the "you call may be monitored" announcement.
Yes, the company does have the right to monitor emails sent from company terminals or using the company's internet connection. This is usually done with the excuse that you may receive a virus, etc. Yes, the company does have the right to monitor your internet usage. This is usually done under the "safe workplace" excuse.

htismaqe · 01-15-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i know ... until the Chiefs win in the playoffs and gives them no choice or Cassel is gone it will be one lame ass reason after another.

So let me get this straight - the people that are unhappy with this franchise and its QB are "lame"?

DRU · 01-15-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

We don't know what's going to happen, no.

But we do have past history to draw upon.

He hired Haley, who worked for Parcells. He hired Weis. He hired Crennel and then promoted him. Right now I see ZERO reason to hope that he hires some exciting name for OC. Past history suggests he's going to hire some Patriot/Parcells cast-off.

He's been very open about his tree and the Patriot way and all that shit the whole time, though. It's not like he was saying one thing and then doing another.

Now, though, he's fired his mistake of a head coach, and he's saying Romeo has the call on his OC. Why don't we wait and see what happens with that before castrating them?

htismaqe · 01-15-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

He was talking about one extreme (the negative) and I was talking about the other (the positive). I think we all know we'll probably fall somewhere in the middle.

If you're so unhappy with this organization, why do you continue to support it? You may be talking shit on it, but you're still supporting it with your emotions and the fact that you buy and resell tix all the time, especially considering you usually lose money on them.

Maybe you've already said this in another thread, but are you officially giving up your tix?

If it were easily possible to give up on years of emotional attachment to team when they underachieve, the NFL wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is now. The Lions, Browns, Chiefs, and several other teams wouldn't even exist.

O.city · 01-15-2012, 07:06 PM

I'm waiting to see what happens with this hire.

If they **** up this offseason, I'm done with em till he's gone.

htismaqe · 01-15-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

He's been very open about his tree and the Patriot way and all that shit the whole time, though. It's not like he was saying one thing and then doing another.

Now, though, he's saying Romeo has the call on his OC. Why don't we wait and see what happens with that before castrating them?

No but he's also said he doesn't like to part with draft picks, yet he did so for Cassel. He said he wants to build slowly, through the draft, yet he traded for Cassel and gave him a handsome contract, even though Cassel was 27 years old and had never played a down for the Chiefs.

There's a lot of examples if you get down to it.

O.city · 01-15-2012, 07:08 PM

I think he saw what this franchise was and what it had personel wise.

He knew Cassel could come in a be a good leader, outspoken, and consistent while the change was occuring.

However, I don't understand why you give him such a big contract.

Mr. Laz · 01-15-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

So let me get this straight - the people that are unhappy with this franchise and its QB are "lame"?

reading fail

although you are being pretty lame

01-14-2012, 11:42 PM
Dr. Gigglepants Veteran Join Date: Apr 2011 Casino cash: $22400	Arrowhead anxiety: Turnover off the field causes concern Secrecy, intimidation, fear and a watchful eye have become hallmarks of working for the Chiefs, say some current and former employees. BY KENT BABB THE KANSAS CITY STAR Todd Haley walked into the public relations office at Chiefs headquarters on a Thursday in early December. Four days before he was fired as the team’s coach, he wanted to talk about what life was like inside this organization. But he didn’t know who else might be listening. continued... http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/14...nover-off.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- This article goes into a lot of detail on the changes that came into effect with the Pioli regime. Sounds like a shitty ass place to work now.
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oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	I'll only address the electronic surveillance issues. First of all, there is no way other than a physical plant in a cell phone, for a private person or company to monitor (tap) a cell phone. It has to be done at the switch or by monitoring all the traffic in that carrier's broadcast. Both of these require a warrant. Monitoring company telephones is legal as long as the employee is aware that that might happen or if the other party is given notice. Many companies now require the employee to acknowledge that in writing every year in their code of conduct review. The non-employee party is given notice by the "you call may be monitored" announcement. Yes, the company does have the right to monitor emails sent from company terminals or using the company's internet connection. This is usually done with the excuse that you may receive a virus, etc. Yes, the company does have the right to monitor your internet usage. This is usually done under the "safe workplace" excuse.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-685936	I think he saw what this franchise was and what it had personel wise. He knew Cassel could come in a be a good leader, outspoken, and consistent while the change was occuring. However, I don't understand why you give him such a big contract.
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