Chiefs Let's talk about the ****ing Bills. - Page 27

Direckshun · 11-02-2014, 08:19 PM

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:

The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
He is still Kyle Orton.

That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.

**Mav** · 11-07-2014, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Man, you are NOT kidding.

It's crazy to say out loud, but get ready for this:

We have to win this game, in order for us to keep pace with the Browns.

LOL. Well, I have some good news, and some bad news for you.

Good news. We both have to play buffalo. The BAD news for the Chiefs. The browns won a game against a division opponent on the road last night with their top 3 receiving options out.

The worse news? IN the next two weeks they will have all of them back and a pretty favorable schedule.

O.city · 11-07-2014, 11:23 AM

Chiefs have a tough schedule ahead, browns dont.

Direckshun · 11-07-2014, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

This is a shaping up to be the kind of season where a 10 win AFC team will NOT make the playoffs.

We can worry about that after the Bills game.

If we lose the Bills game it honestly won't even matter.

**Mav** · 11-07-2014, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

The Chiefs have won once there in 30 years. Yes it's going to be a tough game.

does it help to know that the ONE win was last year?

ToxSocks · 11-07-2014, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I honestly doubt more than 1 AFC team hits 13-3.

If one does...

Both the Donks and the Pats look like they can hit that mark.

And look at the mix of Wildcard teams.....

I really think there's a good chance that a 10 win AFC team won't make the playoffs this year.

This game is CRUCIAL as a tie breaker.

ToxSocks · 11-07-2014, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

We can worry about that after the Bills game.

If we lose the Bills game it honestly won't even matter.

Of course it will.

Don't give me that dramatic shit that "If the Chiefs lose our playoff hopes are over!!!"

**Mav** · 11-07-2014, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Of course it will.

Don't give me that dramatic shit that "If the Chiefs lose our playoff hopes are over!!!"

Yeah, that's the dumbest shit ever. The bills still have a hell of a schedule. The AFC north still has to play games against each other. The browns still have to play the Ravens at Baltimore, and Cinci, in Cleveland.

This whole one more loss, and we are screwed is bullshit to the fullest.

Direckshun · 11-07-2014, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Of course it will.

Don't give me that dramatic shit that "If the Chiefs lose our playoff hopes are over!!!"

Some games are more equal than others.

If we win, our playoff hopes rise to around 60%.

If we lose, they drop to at LEAST half of that.

Direckshun · 11-07-2014, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

Yeah, that's the dumbest shit ever. The bills still have a hell of a schedule. The AFC north still has to play games against each other. The browns still have to play the Ravens at Baltimore, and Cinci, in Cleveland.

This whole one more loss, and we are screwed is bullshit to the fullest.

Cleveland's schedule isn't that bad, actually.

Sandy Vagina · 11-07-2014, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Some games are more equal than others.

If we win, our playoff hopes rise to around 60%.

If we lose, they drop to at LEAST half of that.

You can take your fancy percentages and shove em!!!!

( nah, just kidding... but still... SHOVE EM!!!!! )

**Mav** · 11-07-2014, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Cleveland's schedule isn't that bad, actually.

Its not. Even their toughest game in my opinion (indy) is in Cleveland.

I think they win the division. I don't trust the Steelers, and the steelers have a decently tough schedule. The Bengals are garbage, and the Ravens are finished. At this point, I could see maybe two teams coming out of that division. Browns and who cares.

Direckshun · 11-07-2014, 11:34 AM

I honestly think the Ravens are in a spiral, too. They just lost Jimmy Smith for the season, too.

You being bear-ish on the Steelers surprises me. What leads you to that conclusion?

**Rausch** · 11-07-2014, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

Its not. Even their toughest game in my opinion (indy) is in Cleveland.

I think they win the division. I don't trust the Steelers, and the steelers have a decently tough schedule. The Bengals are garbage, and the Ravens are finished. At this point, I could see maybe two teams coming out of that division. Browns and who cares.

If I had to put money down today I'd put it on the Steelers.

Been there, done that, solid HC, HOF DC, they get the nod...

O.city · 11-07-2014, 11:40 AM

Steelers defense seems pretty, well, shitty.

**Rausch** · 11-07-2014, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Steelers defense seems pretty, well, shitty.

It is.

But they still play up to the moment...

11-02-2014, 08:19 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2103447	Let's talk about the ing Bills. This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate. The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ***ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost* as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye. What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What?? I'll tell you what happened. Kyle **ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous. Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success: The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success. He is still Kyle Orton. That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone. He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown. After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-ing-diculous speedster. At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright. I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us. So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3. This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst. I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady. Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps. Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none. This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better. Let's win this **ing game.
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