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The Broncos futility continues
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/traini...ohn&id=4418733 Broncos in tough spot with Marshall If you thought Josh McDaniels was in a tough spot with the Jay Cutler trade, don't look now. The Brandon Marshall situation might be worse. The trust between Marshall and the Broncos has been broken on both sides. Marshall doesn't trust the trainers; he doesn't trust the organization. On the flip side, the Broncos don't trust him enough to offer him a contract extension. Trading him would set more precedents for players who might want to leave the Broncos. What the Broncos need is a face-saving angel, a team willing to trade the equivalent of a No. 1 and No. 4 pick to resolve this situation. Watching the Broncos play the Seahawks on Saturday night, I think the Broncos can get by with three- and four-receiver sets that feature Eddie Royal, Jabar Gaffney, Brandon Stokley and Chad Jackson. That group of receivers might not be tall, but it's solid enough for Kyle Orton, who is going to operate a quick passing offense out of three- and five-step drops. The problem facing the Broncos is that because their defense is suspect, they probably are going to play a lot of shootouts. Orton is good, but I don't see him winning three games in which the defense surrendered 30 or more points, as Cutler did last season. Plus, starting in Week 4, the Broncos face an eight-game stretch in which it's going to be hard to win many games. From Oct. 4 to Nov. 26, they face Dallas, New England, San Diego, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Washington, San Diego and the Giants. They could lose all eight. Getting value for Marshall, who is in the final year of his contract, is the wise thing to do if McDaniels is going to build the Broncos back into a playoff team. Marshall would be a great fit on the Ravens or the Jets. If neither team -- or another suitor -- offers a No. 1 and a No. 4, the Broncos will have to keep him, even though his attitude might cause his productivity to drop. Last edited by Kerberos; 08-25-2009 at 05:58 AM.. |
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08-25-2009, 07:43 AM | #31 |
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Just for the record though (not that you care)but I dont like Orton,and dont think he will last as your starter.Even though I thought Cutler was a lil too cocky I still liked the guy,so thats pretty much where my petty BS comes from...
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08-25-2009, 07:47 AM | #32 |
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While DB's may have dropped 4 INT's from Cutler, they have CAUGHT 4 thrown by Orton and dropped several more. His 2 games have been Abortons.
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08-25-2009, 08:08 AM | #33 |
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08-25-2009, 08:33 AM | #34 |
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Before I say this, let me make it perfectly clear that I am thoroughly enjoying the Donkeys epic failure of an offseason and be the 1st, or 36412385701st Chiefs fan to say, "This was a long time coming for the Donks.".
With that said, if I were a neutral party, I would want to see Denver bench the ever loving shit out of Marshall for the season and trade his ass away next offseason. If you let Marshall go just like you did Cutler for his behavior, you're setting a dangerous precedence and saying its alright for anyone on that Denver team to misbehave in order to get what they want. Bench Marshall for the season and you regain the locker room and make it perfectly clear that nobody is above the team. He's a fantastic talent and his benching will sever any explosiveness the Broncos might have this season and in the future, but it's all about drawing a line in the sand. Trade Marshall just like you did Cutler and a rookie head coach loses the locker room (if he hasn't lost it already). Plus, if that would happen coupled with the Niners' situation with Crabtree, it would go a long way in keeping these "me-first" athletes all over the NFL from acting like grade-A bitches. In closing, **** Denver. |
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08-25-2009, 08:35 AM | #35 | |
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Yeah, Cutler had more interceptions. It is amazing what happens when the defense sucks eggs and you have to try to win a game. Moreno is a good back. No dispute there. He is NOT LT. LT isn't 205lbs. LT is 220lbs. There is a huge difference there. Moreno isn't as fast, he isn't as big, and he doesn't catch the ball as well. LT ran a 4.46. Moreno ran a 4.61. As a UGA observer, Moreno is a good back and has good vision. But, he isn't the home run threat that LT is. He isn't as big as LT is. You took a small slow back in the first round. You traded what is likely to be a top five pick for an undersized corner in the second round. You traded away a franchise QB that was 26 years old, that would have been a starter for 2/3's of the league. You got a guy that would have been a backup on nearly every other team in the league in Orton. I am really struggling to think of any other team besides Denver and San Fran that might actually start Orton. And, YOU think you had a 'great' offseason. Hey, this year should be fun. I hope you stick around. |
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#1) For this to be a discussion, it would seem that they would have had to have at least a chance to catch the ball. They had no such chance. #2) The defender DID drop an INT the play before the TD. #3) There is NO offense that Kyle Orton is perfect for. |
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08-25-2009, 08:45 AM | #38 |
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He doesn't honestly believe 3/4s of the stuff he puts on here. He just wants a rise out of us.
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Oh, and the Bears had a safety.... Broncos did not. The Broncos OFFENSE scored 22.25 pts per game. The Bears OFFENSE scored 21.125 pts per game. So, as with most of your points. YOU ARE WRONG! Second, Knowshon doesn't do ANYTHING better than LT. Nothing. Not getting on the bus, drinking gatoraide, wiping his a$$..... Nothing. I would hope he plays faster than his 40 time, because he is slow. And, according to the NFL, he weighs 205. I would love to take your word for it... but given your post history and outright lies.... I just can't. |
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