SI reporter gets Michelle Wie disqualified from her first pro tournament.

[alnorth]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172428,00.html

On Saturday afternoon, Michelle Wie hit into a bush and had to take a drop for an unplayable lie. After the drop, she eyeballed it and determined the ball was not closer to the hole and played on. Michael Bamberger, a reporter for Sports Illustrated, watched the drop and thought it looked a bit closer to the hole, but said nothing. Tourney officials didnt watch any of this and a routine review of the drop on videotape convinced them that everything was proper.

On Sunday afternoon, Wie finished in 4th place and signed her scorecard. THEN, the SI reporter went to tournament officials and complained that Wie broke the rules by dropping the ball closer to the hole and playing on with only a 1-stroke penalty instead of a 2-stroke penalty.

Tournament officials took Michelle out to the bush and asked her to point to where the ball was under the bush and where she dropped the ball. After taking out the measuring tape and carefully measuring the distance it was determined that the drop was about 10 or 11 inches closer to the hole. Since she had signed her score card, she was disqualified for signing an incorrect scorecard.

Had the SI reporter whined and bitched about the drop on Saturday evening or Sunday morning, Wie would have been able to finish in 4th place.

[leviw]

Originally Posted by ArrowheadWolf

What a jerkhead.

I think you are all going a little overboard with Bamberger, because, right now, nobody knows what happened. He's a reporter and he's doing his job. He saw Wie do what she did, which was clearly a rules violation.

Now, assuing he went by the book as a reporter, he went and asked Wie about the drop. If she doesn't comment on it or says she doesn't know, the next logical step is to go ask a rules official. The rules official then goes to the tape, sees Wie indeed broke the rules, and the officials follow up on the DQ, etc., then there is absolutley nothing wrong with what he did. He's doing his job in clarifying what happened what he saw and what the rules are.

What's the difference between this and a reporter having a belief that a coach/athlete is cheating, then doing the proper investigations and then reporting it? There is none.

If he questioned the officials about what he saw, he's perfectly innocent on all accounts. On the other hand, if he campaigned to officials for her disqualification, then he's an asshole.

[beavis]

I heard she was on 'roids.

[chiefqueen]

Originally Posted by redhed

The reporter is a real choadchoker, but rules is rules. Poor wittle Wie will have to get her 50 grrr (pocket change) a little later. The lesson hath been learned, expensively so.

Under that logic ND should be declared the winner b/c Bush admits he tried to push Lienart in.

Also, if you look @ yesterday's fumble return for a TD very closely it does appear DJ tapped a Redskin on the back. I guess we'll have to forfiet the game after Shanahan sees the highlight & notifies the league office.

[chiefqueen]

Originally Posted by leviw

I think you are all going a little overboard with Bamberger, because, right now, nobody knows what happened. He's a reporter and he's doing his job. He saw Wie do what she did, which was clearly a rules violation.

Then why didn't he admit it immediately after it occurred so Michele could adjust her scorecard accordingly. She was not DQ'ed for an illegal drop but signing an incorrect scorecard.

[leviw]

Originally Posted by chiefqueen

Then why didn't he admit it immediately after it occurred so Michele could adjust her scorecard accordingly. She was not DQ'ed for an illegal drop but signing an incorrect scorecard.

Probably the same reason a reporter wouldn't run out of the court and tell a referee that he saw Allen Iverson carrying the ball. From my perspective, he could have cared less whether Wie had her scorecard right or not. He was just trying to get all the facts right for his story, so he asked Wie, then he asked an official. Things just took off from there.

[ChiefFripp]

She deserves it for playing golf.

[Shag]

Originally Posted by leviw

I think you are all going a little overboard with Bamberger, because, right now, nobody knows what happened. He's a reporter and he's doing his job. He saw Wie do what she did, which was clearly a rules violation.

Now, assuing he went by the book as a reporter, he went and asked Wie about the drop. If she doesn't comment on it or says she doesn't know, the next logical step is to go ask a rules official. The rules official then goes to the tape, sees Wie indeed broke the rules, and the officials follow up on the DQ, etc., then there is absolutley nothing wrong with what he did. He's doing his job in clarifying what happened what he saw and what the rules are.

What's the difference between this and a reporter having a belief that a coach/athlete is cheating, then doing the proper investigations and then reporting it? There is none.

If he questioned the officials about what he saw, he's perfectly innocent on all accounts. On the other hand, if he campaigned to officials for her disqualification, then he's an asshole.

His job is to be a rules official for golf? Odd.

Sounds to me like it's a reporter who wanted his name in the headlines. Convenient timing, considering how long he sat on it...

[leviw]

Originally Posted by Shag

His job is to be a rules official for golf? Odd.

Sounds to me like it's a reporter who wanted his name in the headlines. Convenient timing, considering how long he sat on it...

Did you read what I wrote??? He wasn't trying to be a rules official, he was trying to clarify what he saw. That's Journalism 101.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

I saw Jack Nicklaus do the exact same thing at a tourney in 1974. No one caught it then, but I'm blowing the whistle now. That fugger better cough up the $72,164 he won -- WITH INTEREST.

Give them a call. They'll have to drag Jack out there and measure stuff. I mean, if they give this clownpuncher credibility, they'll have to believe you.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Frankie

This type of stuff is why I hope Golf will go the way of Boxing in my lifetime. Not to mention it is f#@king boring to watch.

It'd be interesting to see Wie try to bite off Sorenstam's ear.

[chiefqueen]

Originally Posted by leviw

I think you are all going a little overboard with Bamberger, because, right now, nobody knows what happened. He's a reporter and he's doing his job. He saw Wie do what she did, which was clearly a rules violation.

Now, assuing he went by the book as a reporter, he went and asked Wie about the drop. If she doesn't comment on it or says she doesn't know, the next logical step is to go ask a rules official. The rules official then goes to the tape, sees Wie indeed broke the rules, and the officials follow up on the DQ, etc., then there is absolutley nothing wrong with what he did. He's doing his job in clarifying what happened what he saw and what the rules are.

What's the difference between this and a reporter having a belief that a coach/athlete is cheating, then doing the proper investigations and then reporting it? There is none.

If he questioned the officials about what he saw, he's perfectly innocent on all accounts. On the other hand, if he campaigned to officials for her disqualification, then he's an asshole.

One problem with your logic.........what was his motive in staying silent 24 hours. Why not tell immediately, allow her to add the penalty (1 or 2 strokes), and be in good standing on Sun?

[leviw]

Originally Posted by chiefqueen

One problem with your logic.........what was his motive in staying silent 24 hours. Why not tell immediately, allow her to add the penalty (1 or 2 strokes), and be in good standing on Sun?

Why should he have? He's a reporter. It's not his job to make sure she's doing it by the rule book. It's his job to get the facts straight and the rules straight. And with her being a professional right in the middle of competition, it's not like he can walk up to her and be like "I don't think that's right."

Plain and simple: If anyone is to blame here, it's Wie for not abiding by a rule that any weekend hacker knows. Brandenberg was just doing his job.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by leviw

Why should he have? He's a reporter. It's not his job to make sure she's doing it by the rule book. It's his job to get the facts straight and the rules straight. And with her being a professional right in the middle of competition, it's not like he can walk up to her and be like "I don't think that's right."

Plain and simple: If anyone is to blame here, it's Wie for not abiding by a rule that any weekend hacker knows. Brandenberg was just doing his job.

If you think that its a coincidence that he just happened to talk to officials minutes after she signed her scorecard, I've got a bridge to sell ya.

The truth is, he saw a potential for a big sexy story if Wie gets disqualified. However, unless he waits over a day to mention it, then no one cares. So this asshole decided he would wait untill Wie signed her scorecard before approaching tourney officials in the hopes of seeing her disqualified for a nice headline story.

I understand Wie should have been more careful, I get that. I have no problem with reporters asking the tough questions, thats their job. I even dont have a problem with him approaching tourney officials about this. However, when he sits on this untill right after she entered the clubhouse in the hopes of creating a story to write, that treads into the realm of the unethical.

[leviw]

Originally Posted by alnorth

If you think that its a coincidence that he just happened to talk to officials minutes after she signed her scorecard, I've got a bridge to sell ya.

The truth is, he saw a potential for a big sexy story if Wie gets disqualified. However, unless he waits over a day to mention it, then no one cares. So this asshole decided he would wait untill Wie signed her scorecard before approaching tourney officials in the hopes of seeing her disqualified for a nice headline story.

I understand Wie should have been more careful, I get that. I have no problem with reporters asking the tough questions, thats their job. I even dont have a problem with him approaching tourney officials about this. However, when he sits on this untill right after she entered the clubhouse in the hopes of creating a story to write, that treads into the realm of the unethical.

Why would any reporter want to draw attention to himself in a story HE is going to write? Sure, it would be a sexy story, but no sexier than a 16-year old girl finishing in the top five in her first tournament as a pro.

I guarentee you Bramberger is embarrassed as hell that as a reporter he was the source of a major story, and not the author of it. As far as creating the story, I'll bet you the same bridge you want to sell me that IF SI runs a story, Brandenberg is not the author.

[headsnap]

Originally Posted by leviw

I guarentee you Brandenberg is embarrassed as hell that as a reporter he was the source of a major story, and not the author of it. As far as creating the story, I'll bet you the same bridge you want to sell me that IF SI runs a story, Brandenberg is not the author.

I highly doubt that...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=126720



how about that bridge, I take cash up front...