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Old 12-28-2005, 03:22 PM  
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Why I want Mike Martz to be the Chiefs next HC
My reasoning:

1) For all the talk that Martz is a bad coach, he has a 53-32 record as a head coach, and a 3-4 career playoff record. Gregg Williams has a 17-31 career head coaching record. It would be hard pressed to find any prospective coach who is going to be available this offseason (and I still think Fisher stays in Tennessee) with the NFL head coaching record that Martz has.

2) Martz would keep the basis of the Chiefs' current successful offensive system in place and would probably enhance the passing game by upgrading the WR position, making the Chiefs passing game more explosive. Also Martz and Trent Green have a history together and a positive relationship, which is important considering Trent will probably be the Chiefs starting QB for another 2 seasons at least IMO.

3) Martz has a proven track record of developing QBs (see Trent Green, which goes back to his days in Washington, Kurt Warner and Marc Bulger) and would be able to develop a young QB to eventually replace Trent Green.

4) All the gushing over Gregg Williams, people are forgetting how horrible he was as a head coach in Buffalo. That 3rd year where he had the players in place on defense that he had wanted, the Bills completely fell apart, finishing 6-10. All he's proven in Washington is that he's a good defensive coordinator, but nothing that would suggest he would be a better head coach if he were given a second chance.

5) Looking at college ranks, really no one stands out to me. I don't think Carroll will leave USC this offseason and I don't think Stoops would make a good NFL head coach (especially considering he is overrated as a college coach, see how Pete Caroll and Nick Saban toyed with and humiliated him in the Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl the past 2 years). Not to mention, also that Stoops has zero NFL coaching experience.

6) I think Martz could be a guy who helps turn around the Chiefs defense. After his first year as head coach of the Rams, he led the Rams focus that offseason towards dramatically improving their defense, and he hired Lovie Smith to be DC. The following season the Rams finished in the top 10 in total defense and allowed 200 less points that season than they did the season before (second most dramatic improvement in NFL history). I'm not arguing that Martz was the main reason behind that improvement and I'm sure Lovie Smith was probably the main reason why, but Martz was the one who hired Lovie Smith and Martz led the initiative to dramatically improve the Rams defense that offseason.
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Old 12-28-2005, 04:31 PM   #31
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I would no longer be a Chiefs fan if Martz is our new HC. He's a great coordinator, terrible HC. His 50something win record does not show for his inconsistency and goofy play calling. I wouldnt mind him as our QB coach or OC if Al Saunders was to replace DV. But other than that I view Martz as a whiny little baby. I pretty much hate the entire Rams organization as a whole.

He's a terrible head coach with a 53-32 career record, including 3 playoff wins and a Super Bowl appearance? If a guy is a "terrible head coach" in your opinion with those credentials, what kind of head coach would that make Gregg Williams who has a 17-31 career record with no playoff wins or appearances.
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Old 12-28-2005, 04:35 PM   #32
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As much as I'd love to see LJ sitting on the bench...I must disagree.
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Old 12-28-2005, 04:41 PM   #33
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Well he would save LJ, because he would only get 7 carries a game...
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Old 12-28-2005, 04:52 PM   #34
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Martz did a servicable job... with Dick Vermeil's team...
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:25 PM   #35
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Martz did a servicable job... with Dick Vermeil's team...

So why couldn't he do the same in KC
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:38 PM   #36
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Well he would save LJ, because he would only get 7 carries a game...
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:47 PM   #37
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**** NO to Mike Martz
have you watched him coach any games??
Exactly. Terrible time management. Makes horable decisions on his challenges. Horable decisions on his timeouts. No regard for the running game and couldn't care less about Defensive football.

That would spell horror in KC, kinda like in St. Louis now.
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:50 PM   #38
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Wanting Martz as a HC should be a bannable offense...
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bring in martz as a oc if carl brings in herm as a hc...this would balance out herm being conservative and martz being to agressive
And then Herm would override Martz on play calling on that final drive in the playoffs where he wants to play for the game winning FG and our kicker would miss, the other team would score and we would be in the 90's again.
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Martz is an idiot. No way do I wanna see him coaching the Chiefs.

I agree. Herm is a better choice
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Wanting Martz as a HC should be a bannable offense...
I agree, If you have watched any of his games and want him as the Chiefs coach you can't truly want the best for the Chiefs.
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As much as I'd love to see LJ sitting on the bench
WTF?
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Just when I thought it wouldn't get worse, here comes Martz...he just sat one of the best 5 RB's in the game, after a Super Bowl run, in favor of his Passing game, and hadn't won anything since.

enough with this guy!
Now this is someone who GETS IT!
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So why couldn't he do the same in KC
If Martz is so great, why couldn't he maintain the status quo, with a good team in place from the day he took over?

He's an imbecile. He had a fumble and interception prone QB so he runs min-protect, 5-wide formations. He's got a nice running back- that is getting the ball 15 times a game. He mismanages the clock, his personnel currently comprise one of a handful of teams giving up more YPG than the Chiefs, he scapegoats and alienates players, and he's currently waging a proxy war in the media against the organization that still employs him.

Not to mention the kooky play calling that most of us have had enough of already. Earlier this year they showed a play on sportcenter where he called a reverse on third and short. I listened to a Rams fan here at work after another game complain that when the team was getting blown out with a few minutes to go, Bulger was still in and Jackson was playing with a fracture in his sternum.

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Old 12-28-2005, 07:06 PM   #45
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Is there another head coaching possibility that is realistically going to be available this offseason with that proven NFL track record as a head coach?
Dick had proven track record when he came to the Chiefs, and where the hell has that gotten the Chiefs?

I wonder if Bills fans, back in '85 or '86 thought the same about Marv Levy when he was hired, as some Chiefs fans think of Greg(with another g) Williams?
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