Who else thinks Perrera's got some 'splainin to do this week?

[B_Ambuehl]

Can't wait to here what the head of officials has to say this week. I wasn't really rooting for either team just wanted to see a close game. It's bad enough Seattle left the win out on the field through their own poor execution but they seemed to be battling not only a road type atmosphere but the officiating that comes along with that. Many particular calls i'm interested in:

1. That pushoff call that took away Seattle's 1st TD (c'mon man that didn't interfere with the result of the play)
2. That questionable illegal block on Warricks long punt return (which I don't recall seeing on replay).
3. That bullshit holding call on Stevens long pass reception in the 4th Quarter in what perhaps should've been an offsides call instead.
4. That bullshit touchdown call on Roethlisbergers touchdown
5. That blatant holding call that wasn't called against Pittsburgh on one of Ben's scrambles for a first down in the 2nd half.
6. Another questionable holding call against Seattle in the 1st quarter that took away a completion inside the 20 on 2nd down and led to a punt.

edit: and a couple more I now remember:

7. That bullshit timeout that was awarded to pittsburgh in the 2nd half in what should've been a definite delay of game.
8. That 15 yd penalty against Hasselbeck for an illegal block in what was an obvious attempt at driving through a blocker for a tackle.
9. An obvious horsecollar tackle that wasn't called against Pittsburgh in the 2nd half.

[1punkyQB]

WOW!!! I am assuming you watched the game at a bar? You should watch a tape. The officials played no part in the out come of this game. Seattle had chances and failed to capitalize. After you watch the tape I am sure you will understand.

Nope, didn't watch it in a bar, and you haven't viewed the game on tape yet either since it hasn't been over that long. I'm guessing you aren't a neutral observer either. Do you think that Darnell Jackson did commit PI? If not, it took points off the board and factored into the outcome of the game. Same with the numerous other penalties. What on tape will be shown that wasn't seen on numerous replays? Should I keep rewinding and playing until it looks like a holding penalty occurred where there wasn't one?

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

1. That pushoff call that took away Seattle's 1st TD (c'mon man that didn't interfere with the result of the play)

-I've seen far worse pushoffs from the best receivers, i.e., Moss and get away with it. I agree that was bullsh*t.

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

2. That questionable illegal block on Warricks long punt return (which I don't recall seeing on replay).

-Didn't see the illegal block. I agree.

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

3. That bullshit holding call on Stevens long pass reception in the 4th Quarter.

-Totally bullsh*t. Haggans jumped offsides, Locklear didn't hold em. that led to 50 yard FG miss by Brown.

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

4. That bullshit touchdown call on Roethlisbergers touchdown

-I disagree. That was a touchdown. The nose of the football barely touched the touched the goaline.

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

5. That blatant holding call that wasn't called against Pittsburgh on one of Ben's scrambles for a first down in the 2nd half.

-I saw that. Yes that was Holding. Totally blown call.

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

6. Another questionable holding call against Seattle in the 1st quarter that took away a completion inside the 20 on 2nd down and led to a punt.

-That was holding. I disagree.

[chief52]

Originally Posted by 1punkyQB

Nope, didn't watch it in a bar, and you haven't viewed the game on tape yet either since it hasn't been over that long. I'm guessing you aren't a neutral observer either. Do you think that Darnell Jackson did commit PI? If not, it took points off the board and factored into the outcome of the game. Same with the numerous other penalties. What on tape will be shown that wasn't seen on numerous replays? Should I keep rewinding and playing until it looks like a holding penalty occurred where there wasn't one?

I honestly do not feel it changed the out come of the game. The Seahawks had chances and did not take advantage of them. Mistakes in officiating were made, but it did not in any way affect the outcome. It is part of the game and always will be.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by penguinz

And this post of yours is better how? Go suck on your mommy's tit.

Whatever dude. Your an idiot.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by RedBull

Whatever dude. Your an idiot.

You are using the word dude and I am the idiot?

Stephens dropped more balls than Johnnie Morton during testosterone martini night at the Lavendar Umbrella Men's Club.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by penguinz

You are using the word dude and I am the idiot?

So what?

You want me to call you a dumbass? Is that what you want? what do you want?

[Nightwish]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

No that O-PI that took away a TD had no bearing on the game or the phantom holding call that negated a 1st and goal on the 2 yd line.

The holding call was very questionable, but the Offensive Pass Interference call was not. It was a little bit petty, because the infraction was a common and minor push-off, but the push-off was there, and it was still illegal no matter how many times refs generally let people get away with it. People push off like that all the time, and one of the best at it is our own Tony G, but it is still an illegal move, so there's not much point in complaining about an illegal move getting flagged.

[1punkyQB]

The Steelers missed numerous opportunities also. That pick inside the 10 being the worst. If they had lost, we'd be talking about their slow start in the 1st quarter doing them in. Any game has missed opportunities by both teams. A game, particularly a Super Bowl, should never be decided by officials. And a penalty can kill a drive. They're getting paid too and asking for competency isn't really asking for much.

Originally Posted by penguinz

You are using the word dude and I am the idiot?

Shit. I know I'm an idiot and everything, but I didn't know I was an idiot because I use "dude" frequently.

[Nightwish]

Originally Posted by wutamess

Another *****ed up call.

In the first qtr... Jeremy Stevens fumbled the ball after taking 2 steps to turn around to go upfield. The dickheads prematurely blew the whistle and called it incomplete instead of a fumble.

I know it's against the grain but just another example of how poorly officiated this game was.

Just two quick things on that one: 1) that one may well have worked for Seattle rather than against, as the pursuer who was about to pick up the ball abandoned the chase when they blew it dead, otherwise it would have been a fumble recovered by Pittsburgh. 2) it was a good call -- the receiver has to establish possession then get two steps down. He never had possession, as the replays showed, because the whole time he was turning he was juggling the ball and trying to tuck it in. He got hit before he got it tucked or under control, thus he lost it. Good call.

[Nzoner]

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[Nightwish]

Originally Posted by RedBull

-I've seen far worse pushoffs from the best receivers, i.e., Moss and get away with it. I agree that was bullsh*t.

It's not a bullsh*t call. It is always illegal for the receiver to push off the defender beyond 5 yards. The fact that the refs usually let them get away with it doesn't make it any less so.

[1punkyQB]

It is always illegal for the receiver to push off the defender beyond 5 yards.

I agree that PI isn't called on receivers nearly enough (and I was shocked when it was called on Moss playing at Oakland, no less). The problem is the DB for Pittsburgh had a hand on Jackson prior to that. Isn't that illegal contact, or whatever they're calling that crappy Marvin Harrison rule?

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Nightwish

It's not a bullsh*t call. It is always illegal for the receiver to push off the defender beyond 5 yards. The fact that the refs usually let them get away with it doesn't make it any less so.

It was bullshit because the refs didn't call the defensive interference when the DB made contact with Jackson on the goal line during that play.

He let the DB put his hands on Jackson on the goal line, which should have been illegal contact. But then got stingy a few steps later when Jackson pushed off. If you're going to call a tight game, at least be consistent.