Is Damon Huard likely to be the odd man out?

[jAZ]

Sounds like it...

"Both of them (Printers and Croyle) will make this team" (Shea)
"(Printers is) going to be a backup for us..." (Peterson)

http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/news_story/?ID=169275&hubname=cfl

Printers impresses Chiefs; likely to stick
TSN.ca Staff

6/20/2006 7:47:27 PM

It appears that Casey Printers will not be returning to the Candian Football League this season.

Terry Shea, the quarterbacks coach for the Kansas City Chiefs, told CKNW in Vancouver that he expects Printers will stick with the NFL club.

Kansas City is set with Trent Green as the starter and Damon Huard as the primary back-up, and the Chiefs entered their off-season workouts expecting a battle for the third spot between Printers and third round draft pick Brodie Croyle.

Green, who will be 36 this season, has been resting his arm in camp, which has given the Chiefs a lot of good looks at the newcomers. Shea said Printers and Croyle are simply too good to let go.

"Both of them will make this team," Shea told CKNW. "They've done a nice job of picking up the offence."

The only problem for the Chiefs now is figuring out how to carry four quarterbacks. League rules permit clubs to carry three, but another can be signed to the practice squad.

The Chiefs' training camp opens July 28.

Printers signed with the Chiefs in January after a short, but stellar, career with the B.C. Lions. He was the league MVP in 2004 after throwing for 5,000 yards, 35 touchdowns and only 10 interceptions. He also ran for almost 500 yards and nine touchdowns.

Printers, though, did not start the Grey Cup game, which the Lions lost. Injuries hampered him in 2005, and he lost the starting job to veteran Dave Dickenson.

After the 2005 season, Printers started to explore his options and signed with the Chiefs.

"We've had some good fortune with Canadian players," Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson told the Kansas City Star after Printers signed.

"I look at it this way: It's like having an additional draft choice. And this draft choice has pro football experience, albeit the CFL. It’s a bigger, wider field and so on. But I think he's got a chance to come in and help us. He’s going to be a backup for us and learn what we do and what this offense is all about."

After a workout last May, Printers told KCChiefs.com that his CFL experience will help him make the Chiefs.

"Well it definitely prepared me for this because in the CFL you have five receivers going out on every play," Printers said. "Here it’s kind of similar and we were running the same kind of stuff up there. It prepared me a bunch. I was able to play a bunch up there and I'm just prepared for the opportunity when it's given."

After watching him practice this spring, Shea has high hopes for the former B.C. Lions pivot.

"Eventually, Casey has a chance to compete as a starting quarterback in the NFL," Shea said.

[JBucc]

Originally Posted by Laz

Practice squad rules: Teams can have a maximum of eight players on the practice squad. The limit was increased by three in 2004. Players credited with two or more NFL seasons are ineligible. There is no restriction for age or last season in college.

Then cut him

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by jAZ

I took the Occam comment by Gaz to mean he was serious. But I'll give it a kick to be sure.

i guess you were correct and i was wrong ... i thought for sure a veteran like Gaz would know the rules


my bad



laz
~sarcasm meter = broken~

[JBucc]

Also, what other Canadian players have we had good fortune with?

[Moooo]

Originally Posted by Laz

Practice squad rules: Teams can have a maximum of eight players on the practice squad. The limit was increased by three in 2004. Players credited with two or more NFL seasons are ineligible. There is no restriction for age or last season in college.

I was also under the impression the practice squad was still part of the organization. Why is it that the contracts are null and void if a player is on the practice squad? If the contract has been signed, and the guy is getting his dough...

Also, no one else finds it necessary our backup has actual NFL experience?

Moooo

[htismaqe]

They can't keep all 4.

They can't put Huard on the PS.

There's no way Croyle would clear waivers to go the PS.

There's only 2 choices:

1) Cut Huard and have zero experience backing up Green.
2) See if Printers can clear waivers and put him on the PS.

I personally like #2. I've seen too many Brian Shay-types come through this organization to get too excited about Printers.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They can't keep all 4.

They can't put Huard on the PS.

There's no way Croyle would clear waivers to go the PS.

There's only 2 choices:

1) Cut Huard and have zero experience backing up Green.
2) See if Printers can clear waivers and put him on the PS.

I personally like #2. I've seen too many Brian Shay-types come through this organization to get too excited about Printers.

That's kind of how I see it too.

Although, to be honest I might prefer option 1. We lose our Green, and it won't matter who's next man in.

The one thing I wonder about is the differing styles of Croyle and Printers. I have to think one of these guys does not fit like the other. Printers currently doesn't fit, but Croyle may not fit what Edwards has invisioned for the future (god forbid).

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

2) See if Printers can clear waivers and put him on the PS.

i don't think that works either


there were a few teams in contract negotiations for Printer and he can always just go back to the CFL.


i doubt the 75k per year practice squad contract is enough to keep him around even if he did clear waivers.



either/or huard or printers or Croyle ....... the chiefs are just gonna have to cut one imo.


i hope it's Huard personally

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by JBucc

Also, what other Canadian players have we had good fortune with?

Warren Moon?

[bringbackmarty]

Huard needs to step it up and break his neck. That way we carry the two most viable athletes. it's six of one or half dozen of the other between Croyle\Printers.

I think croyle would be better for us short term, but Printers could be the kind of guy that causes the Rat to retire if he lives up to his potential.

That said, Carl will float a rumor about croyle having more knee probs, and put him on the pup, and sneak him onto the ps in week six when priest comes back, and rushes for 183 yards off the bench. Either that, or he will trade croyle for some tweener fb\te de\dt\lb that will never see the field.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

There's only 2 choices:

1) Cut Huard and have zero experience backing up Green.
2) See if Printers can clear waivers and put him on the PS.

I personally like #2. I've seen too many Brian Shay-types come through this organization to get too excited about Printers.

Yep, I agree with you. From what I've been hearing, Croyle is showing alot more than Printers this preseason, too.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Moooo

I was also under the impression the practice squad was still part of the organization. Why is it that the contracts are null and void if a player is on the practice squad? If the contract has been signed, and the guy is getting his dough...

Also, no one else finds it necessary our backup has actual NFL experience?

Moooo

NFL contracts are not guaranteed ... and a player has to be cut(contract termination) before being placed on the practice squad.

when a player whom is under contract is cut by an NFL team they have go through the waiver process before a team can sign them again.


practice squad players have a set contract amount IIRC. It was 50k per year .......... now i think it's been raised (75k ??? )

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by jspchief

That's kind of how I see it too.

Although, to be honest I might prefer option 1. We lose our Green, and it won't matter who's next man in.

The one thing I wonder about is the differing styles of Croyle and Printers. I have to think one of these guys does not fit like the other. Printers currently doesn't fit, but Croyle may not fit what Edwards has invisioned for the future (god forbid).

Well, to be honest, I don't see why any team would keep two QBoTF. If Green sprains an ankle and is going to miss the last 2 quarters, but will be back the following week, play Huard. If Green is down for 3 or 4 games, start Huard for the first couple of games and see how it goes, replace him with Croyle if he struggles. If Green goes down for the season, play Croyle. I see no reason to keep Printers on this team.

That being said, I care about Green and Croyle. I could really care less what they do with the other two.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by bringbackmarty

I think croyle would be better for us short term, but Printers could be the kind of guy that causes the Rat to retire if he lives up to his potential.

This is PRECISELY the type of Printers hyperbole I'm talking about.

[Moooo]

Originally Posted by Laz

i don't think that works either

there were a few teams in contract negotiations for Printer and he can always just go back to the CFL.

i doubt the 75k per year practice squad contract is enough to keep him around even if he did clear waivers.

either/or huard or printers or Croyle ....... the chiefs are just gonna have to cut one imo.

i hope it's Huard personally

Isn't it fun to see us go through the process of elimination? So basically we either have to get rid of Huard, Printers, or Croyle, because all three are either ineligible for the practice squad, or have too much upside to be left out in the open.

So either cut one of the two with the upsides or cut our #2 QB, and double down on the bet that one of them will develop into a star.

Moooo

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

This is PRECISELY the type of Printers hyperbole I'm talking about.

Where in the hell would anyone get that idea? He lost a starting job in the CFL didn't he?