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Old system 7 25.93%
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:30 PM  
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What was better? BCS or old system?
I assume a majority of college football fans believe a playoff is an upgrade over the BCS and pre-1995 system, so I don't think there's much suspense in asking that question.

One of the arguments in favor of the BCS today, "it's better than the old system".

Is this true? Did you like the traditional system where it always was Pac-10/Big Ten in the Rose Bowl, Big 8 in the Orange, SEC in the Sugar, SWC in the Cotton? Or do you really think the new system is an improvement even though the computer rankings are bogus?
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:54 AM   #31
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For you play-off lovers:

OK, let's say they go with a 4-team play-off and they use the BCS (or any other) rankings to determine the top 4 teams: There are still those #5-/#6-/#7-(etc.)-ranked teams and their fans who will say that the play-off system sucks!! Bottom line: Ya'll will still whine about it! It's not like these team's players, coaches, etc., are gonna lose their jobs over it! SO STOP WHINING!!
Like the NCAA Basketball Tourney, it's certainly better to be arguing about who's #64 than who is #1.

Let #1 earn it on the field of play like every other D-I sport and let #8 or #16 bitch. (4 is too few to really resolve anything IMO).
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:54 AM   #32
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I think the BCS can be modified a little bit.

The NCAA knows how much money they generate over March Madness (Men's) so they should do this...

Take the top 8 BCS ranked teams and put them in a tourney. This would last one month, many people would see upsets, it would be a great thing to do. There's really no reason why they shouldnt do this. They claim that it would prolong the season and players would get hurt. Tough shit its football and a lot of the players playing in those games will go on to the next level. A couple more games won't hurt.

But there lies 2 problems...

-It's just too easy to do
-BCS and NCAA are all about $$$.
I would vote for a 16 team tournament. Make everyone play through a 12 game schedule with no byes, so you end before thanksgiving weekend.

You say March Madness generates alot of money, but it generates nowhere near what a 16 team college football tournament would. Basketball is cute, but it is nowhere near the moneymaker football is.
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:55 AM   #33
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For you play-off lovers:

OK, let's say they go with a 4-team play-off and they use the BCS (or any other) rankings to determine the top 4 teams: There are still those #5-/#6-/#7-(etc.)-ranked teams and their fans who will say that the play-off system sucks!! Bottom line: Ya'll will still whine about it! It's not like these team's players, coaches, etc., are gonna lose their jobs over it! SO STOP WHINING!!
4 team playoff? Please. 16 teams.

Rarely do we talk about anyone outside the top 10 being NC contenders, so w/ 16 teams, I feel noone would be left out that truly deserved a shot at it.
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:56 AM   #34
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You specifically used 7-5, 8-4 (9-3) matchups.

I used two teams that had those kind of records as an example.

Those other matchups that you mention are good football games, but the point is, at the end of the day, they are irrelevant.

Great games that, in the big picture of things, mean absolutely nothing.
Got it. So every game that isn't the national championship game is irrelevant.
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:59 AM   #35
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I would vote for a 16 team tournament. Make everyone play through a 12 game schedule with no byes, so you end before thanksgiving weekend.

You say March Madness generates alot of money, but it generates nowhere near what a 16 team college football tournament would. Basketball is cute, but it is nowhere near the moneymaker football is.

Ehh I think you need a bye week.

I also think 8 would be enough since the BCS is only the top 10 teams anyways. It could be called the BCS Tourney I dunno.
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:59 AM   #36
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Got it. So every game that isn't the national championship game is irrelevant.
As they say, nobody remembers who finished second.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:01 PM   #37
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4 team playoff? Please. 16 teams.

Rarely do we talk about anyone outside the top 10 being NC contenders, so w/ 16 teams, I feel noone would be left out that truly deserved a shot at it.
We agree on this.

16 team playoff would be perfect, but I'd settle for 8 teams if it came to it.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:03 PM   #38
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Ehh I think you need a bye week.

I also think 8 would be enough since the BCS is only the top 10 teams anyways. It could be called the BCS Tourney I dunno.
Ok. Put a bye week in the middle of the season, or stagger them per team. That's fine with me.

You would STILL have enough time for a 16 team tournament, and it would still end before January 8th (BCS national title game).
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:10 PM   #39
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The BCS is better but i'd love a playoff system.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:12 PM   #40
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:23 PM   #41
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4 team playoff? Please. 16 teams.

Rarely do we talk about anyone outside the top 10 being NC contenders, so w/ 16 teams, I feel noone would be left out that truly deserved a shot at it.


16 team playoff would be great. it would give some of those good teams w/ an 8-4 or 9-3 record a chance to knock some one off.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:25 PM   #42
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I would vote for a 16 team tournament. Make everyone play through a 12 game schedule with no byes, so you end before thanksgiving weekend.

You say March Madness generates alot of money, but it generates nowhere near what a 16 team college football tournament would. Basketball is cute, but it is nowhere near the moneymaker football is.
It is 4 weeks till January, case closed.

I agree with this, and have said it should be so for over 20 years.

Still waiting. Maybe the Chiefs will win a Super Bowl before this happens.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:29 PM   #43
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Does anyone know how many DI conferenced there are?
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:31 PM   #44
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Does anyone know how many DI conferenced there are?
OTOH...
6 BCS conferences (Big East, Big XII, Big 10, SEC, ACC, Pac-10)
Mountain West Conference (MWC)
Western Athletic Conference (WAC)
Mid-American Conference (MAC)
Conference USA
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:32 PM   #45
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16 team playoff would be great. it would give some of those good teams w/ an 8-4 or 9-3 record a chance to knock some one off.
I would rather see the D1 schools limit reg season games to 10, have an off week before the start of the playoffs, then have a 32 team playoff. Each conference champion gets an automatic bid, we have to have Cinderella invited to this ball game.

There is no drama without a Hoosiers type scenario being possible. Trust me, when our HS upset an all everything big school from Sacramento with a 40 game winning streak to win our sections, it was AWESOME.

Just immagine a Rutgers getting on a roll in this thing.
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