Our greatest fears may be realized! - Page 3

Slick32 · 04-28-2007, 08:50 PM

So far in the draft it looks like the Chiefs have gone defense. We may improve our defensse but if we don't pick up something on the O-Line we may not be able to score the 14+ points we need to offset what the defense might be able to do for us.

I'm concerned and somewhat bummed out. Surely there was one or two OL available that could help. If it doesn't get better tomorrow we will be picking from the wretched refuse that doesn't get drafted.

Slick32 · 04-29-2007, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I understand that for a any given community of hundreds of people, you're going to have a few reeruns. I guess this guy must be one of them.

For crying out loud, this is a great draft. I can't believe there are still some people who are dumb enough to bitch

So with the outstanding performance by the offensive line last year you are telling me that the first day we didn't need to take a look at #1. Trading for a journeyman lineman that can help protect whomever we have at QB? and #2 that you did not bitch about the lack of production from the offense last year?

We have drafted 3 players, if you have checked our history of drafts you might see that we have not always had shining stars emerge from the process.

For me to be concerned about an offense that was damaged by retirements and finding decent players to start moving in to the first string makes me reeruned? You seem to be out of touch with reality with what we have and don't have in KC.

After the draft today we will have some idea of what the team will look like. Chances are we are going to move up from 16th in defense and down from 16th in offense. That isn't what is needed. Good defense - yes. Sinking, or stinking, offense - No!

Further, since the season ended there have been zero days on this board where virtually everyone registered bitched about the teams activities from the front office down. Don't be indignant because I don't see progress in the first three picks.

Micjones · 04-29-2007, 07:00 AM

It'd be nice to pickup a guy like Manny Ramirez, but without that 4th Rounder it's going to be tough.

htismaqe · 04-29-2007, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick32

So with the outstanding performance by the offensive line last year you are telling me that the first day we didn't need to take a look at #1. Trading for a journeyman lineman that can help protect whomever we have at QB? and #2 that you did not bitch about the lack of production from the offense last year?

We have drafted 3 players, if you have checked our history of drafts you might see that we have not always had shining stars emerge from the process.

For me to be concerned about an offense that was damaged by retirements and finding decent players to start moving in to the first string makes me reeruned? You seem to be out of touch with reality with what we have and don't have in KC.

After the draft today we will have some idea of what the team will look like. Chances are we are going to move up from 16th in defense and down from 16th in offense. That isn't what is needed. Good defense - yes. Sinking, or stinking, offense - No!

Further, since the season ended there have been zero days on this board where virtually everyone registered bitched about the teams activities from the front office down. Don't be indignant because I don't see progress in the first three picks.

What offensive lineman were you going to draft? The good guards were gone before we picked in the 2nd, and the OT crop this year was awful.

milkman · 04-29-2007, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CHIEF4EVER

I agree. Drafting for need is stupid. You draft the best available player first and foremost, if he fits your need even better.

Exactly.

Everyone one of these picks was good value in their slot, and they each fill a need.

That is as good as I, as a fan, can hope for.

**Skip Towne** · 04-29-2007, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He's got a warrant out in Atlanta. He's been arrested before for assault, domestic I think.

The commish made it clear that his new policy is going to affect the accused as well as the convicted.

He's going to convict them without a trial? The Commie.

htismaqe · 04-29-2007, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

He's going to convict them without a trial? The Commie.

I'll have to find it, but he did indeed say that the new rules were going to apply to everybody that gets in trouble, even if they are never convicted.

chop · 04-29-2007, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Some people will always find something to bitch about....

Our team is in transition mode we aren't a Bowl team, bitching about a solid draft day cause they didn't take any Olinemen is dumb.

I think he's just been watching the Mel Kipers of the world speak about how the Chiefs didn't feel their needs.

Spicy McHaggis · 04-29-2007, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I'd like to see us take Nathan Bennett in the 5th tomorrow.

I like where your head is at.

A few other OL guys I think the Chiefs should look at:

OG - Manuel Ramirez, Josh Beekman

OT - Doug Free

C - Doug Datish

TE - Ben Patrick, Scott Chandler

**Skip Towne** · 04-29-2007, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'll have to find it, but he did indeed say that the new rules were going to apply to everybody that gets in trouble, even if they are never convicted.

The boxing establishment jerked Ali's license before his trial. I never did figure that out.

Fairplay · 04-29-2007, 07:36 AM

Its a sunshine day!

Simplex3 · 04-29-2007, 08:03 AM

Oh noes!!!!!!1!! We didn't fix the oldest team in the league with gaping holes all over the field in 3 picks!!!

Get over it dude. This team sucks hard all over. Just fixing the OL isn't going to cut it. We had the best OL in football for years and never won jack s**t.

I'm just thrilled that we didn't have any obvious reaches on day 1.

Slick32 · 04-29-2007, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

What offensive lineman were you going to draft? The good guards were gone before we picked in the 2nd, and the OT crop this year was awful.

The point is that we didn't try to trade for journeymen. We didn't make an effort to trade up to get any lineman that could have the possiblity of helping.

Waiting until next year just gives us the opportuntiy to have a higher draft pick next year.

I'm sorry, I just dont see Herman trying to fix the offense like he said he was after the season ended. "We need to get some vertical passing" [not sure if that was his exact comment but it is close]

Slick32 · 04-29-2007, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Oh noes!!!!!!1!! We didn't fix the oldest team in the league with gaping holes all over the field in 3 picks!!!

Get over it dude. This team sucks hard all over. Just fixing the OL isn't going to cut it. We had the best OL in football for years and never won jack s**t.

I'm just thrilled that we didn't have any obvious reaches on day 1.

I guess you are satisified with the status quo. I'm not. This draft doesn't look much different than those in the past with the exception that Herman is driving rather than Vermeil. Now we are picking the token offensive player and going defense.

Great Defense + lousy offense = bad year for the fans.

Deberg_1990 · 04-29-2007, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick32

I guess you are satisified with the status quo. I'm not. This draft doesn't look much different than those in the past with the exception that Herman is driving rather than Vermeil. Now we are picking the token offensive player and going defense.

Great Defense + lousy offense = bad year for the fans.

Who would you have picked instead???

They addressed the O with Bowe, and the D with the other two picks??

Both NEED positions. Rome wasnt built in a day.

htismaqe · 04-29-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick32

The point is that we didn't try to trade for journeymen. We didn't make an effort to trade up to get any lineman that could have the possiblity of helping.

Waiting until next year just gives us the opportuntiy to have a higher draft pick next year.

I'm sorry, I just dont see Herman trying to fix the offense like he said he was after the season ended. "We need to get some vertical passing" [not sure if that was his exact comment but it is close]

There weren't any linemen available that had a possibility of helping. That's precisely my point.

Dude, our highest dollar free agent was a LEFT TACKLE.

Open your eyes.

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Simplex3 MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $10004900	Oh noes!!!!!!1!! We didn't fix the oldest team in the league with gaping holes all over the field in 3 picks!!! Get over it dude. This team sucks hard all over. Just fixing the OL isn't going to cut it. We had the best OL in football for years and never won jack s**t. I'm just thrilled that we didn't have any obvious reaches on day 1.
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