Pollard just continues to flat-out amaze me. - Page 3

**TinyEvel** · 06-25-2007, 09:40 PM

My TiVo caught NFL Replay of our game vs. the Browns, so I was watching it while doing some web browsing.

Half-way through the third quarter, Pollard recovered a fumble on a kick return.

I watched the replay in slow slo-motion. As the returner was coming toward him, Pollard was tied up by a blocker. Pollard spun to the outside, peeling off the defender and continued his spin back inside (virtually coming backwards at the returner, now facing the same direction as the returner and then came up on his back as he was slowed by Page) and then stripped the ball out from behind.

But it wasn't in his arms, it kind of floated in front of his chest as he fell, so he got it between one arm and his chest and brought his legs up as he fell. AND fought off the invading arm of a Cleveland player who was falling on top of him.

Friggin' amazing athleticism and focus. Time and time again, he brought in amazing, impossible, big plays like this last year. It's going to be awesome to watch this guy this year.

RustShack · 06-26-2007, 12:50 AM

The SS I would compare Pollard too is John Lynch (without the cheap shots), he will just lay you out. I would compare Page to Reed (like it was previously said, hes a ballhawking safty). I'm definatly not saying they will be as good as them, thats just who I would compare them too. They both have really good potential, I just hope they live up to it.

Hammock Parties · 06-26-2007, 12:55 AM

John Lynch was a converted linebacker. Athletically, they aren't very similar at all, but they do have similar playing styles, i.e. balls out.

kcchiefsus · 06-26-2007, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost in the Mail

John Lynch was a converted linebacker. Athletically, they aren't very similar at all, but they do have similar playing styles, i.e. balls out.

Lynch has never played linebacker. He played quarterback at first for Stanford but then switched to safety his final two years at Stanford. He has played safety his entire career in the NFL.

Hammock Parties · 06-26-2007, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Lynch has never played linebacker.

He most definitely played linebacker early in his NFL career.

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Q. I’ve been a Bucs fan for a long time...were you frustrated early on in your career when they tried to make you a linebacker?

A. I certainly was. They weren’t really trying to make me a linebacker...they were trying to find a way to get me on the field. For that, I was appreciative, but I would have much rather been playing safety. But as a young guy in this league, you’ve got to earn your way on the field. It didn’t happen right away, but I stuck with it and all the hard work paid off.

kcchiefsus · 06-26-2007, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost in the Mail

He most definitely played linebacker early in his NFL career.

He is still not a "converted linebacker" as you said he was. He played safety the final two years of his career at Stanford and despite this failed attempt to move him to linebacker he has been a safety his whole career.

chagrin · 06-26-2007, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

We have a young, budding ballhawk in Jarrad Page.

You don't build a team around one type of player. You need a mixture.

You want a ballhawk FS. You want a SS that can punish over the middle and support the run. That equation's altered a bit in the Cover 2, but that's the essential skeleton of a good secondary.

Ed Reed's a FS. Pollard's going to be our Bob Sanders SS.

Dude, I was reading the first page and thought about posting until I read thisd - well put.

mikey23545 · 06-26-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost in the Mail

That's just pure f'n want-to.

Can't place a value on that.

mikey23545 · 06-26-2007, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

i am afraid he is all hitter and bad cover guy. THe league is so pansy now that it is almost better just to have a solid tackler that can cover than a guy that can spill guts all over the field but is average at coverage

You might be surprised how much coverage you can buy when you scatter some receiver's bicuspids all over the field early in the game......

**Anyong Bluth** · 06-26-2007, 07:25 AM

Did a little search...

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A little bit of googling reveals that their 40 times were very similar (low 4.6 to high 4.5s). Based on 40 times I don't think you could say one was quicker than the other. Page seemed to do a little better in the short shuttle and cone drills, so he might be a little more quick with respect to cutting and start-stops.

Old Thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...=164719&page=2

John Lynch when he came out of Stanford ran a 4.64 40 at the combine.
http://www.sportingnews.com/experts/.../20050307.html

It says that Jarrad Page ran a 4.63 at the combine & 4.51 at Pro day. His 20 yard dash was 2.72, & 10 yard dash was 1.59. He measured out at 6'1, 239.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=15605

Pollard ran a 4.57 40 at the combine & 4.62 at Pro Day. 20 yard dash was 2.67, & 10 yard dash was 1.58. Measured out at 6'2, 224.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=12594

Many here think that Pollard is the heavy hitter, while Page is suited for coverage, but they seem to be pretty comparable in those numbers, granted their lateral movement is going to be a large factor, as well as stop start, but I don't think it's any coincidence that you have Pollard coming out of the B10 having a more polished run support skills, and Page coming from the Pac10, w/ better coverage skills. How many of you on here knew that Page was actually bigger (weight -wise) than Pollard? Of course Pollard is an inch taller and could end up bulking up and be bigger.

Lynch can not cover for 2 shits these days, but he wasn't horrible back in his day. I also wonder how much he isn't encouraged to play run 1st no matter what usually, given they have Champ, and with Bly on the other side it doesn't seem like a huge gamble to have him cheat the line 90% of the time.

ct · 06-26-2007, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Hell no. I don't know shit about football I am here for the girlie pics

An honest man, REP

Demonpenz · 06-26-2007, 08:18 AM

I honestly must be slipping. I still thought westly was still around. My judgement for pollard will be served when he actually starts playing at saftey. I saw alot of the big 10 when he was there and I wasn't overly impressed. Other than when he jackhammered that gopher

Direckshun · 06-26-2007, 08:39 AM

Wesley is around.

Highly doubtful he beats either of the young guys out for a spot.

pikesome · 06-26-2007, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Wesley is around.

Highly doubtful he beats either of the young guys out for a spot.

Especially since the team doesn't seem to want to keep him. The biggest problem with Wesley is that he doesn't suck. He's still a good player when he wants to be. If he played worse it'd be easy to kick him to the curb.

**Anyong Bluth** · 06-26-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pikesome

Especially since the team doesn't seem to want to keep him. The biggest problem with Wesley is that he doesn't suck. He's still a good player when he wants to be. If he played worse it'd be easy to kick him to the curb.

Given his new contract size, I don't know what his signing bonus was, but it may not be worth cutting Wesley and letting him walk. He can still fill in as a backup, play special teams. If Denver is interested in him, force their hand to acquire the guy?

Direckshun · 06-26-2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cocina_Basement

Given his new contract size, I don't know what his signing bonus was, but it may not be worth cutting Wesley and letting him walk. He can still fill in as a backup, play special teams. If Denver is interested in him, force their hand to acquire the guy?

I'd take Denver's 4th for him.

06-25-2007, 09:40 PM
TinyEvel Just a li'l Evel Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bald. Goatee. Jorts. Casino cash: $2359601	Pollard just continues to flat-out amaze me. My TiVo caught NFL Replay of our game vs. the Browns, so I was watching it while doing some web browsing. Half-way through the third quarter, Pollard recovered a fumble on a kick return. I watched the replay in slow slo-motion. As the returner was coming toward him, Pollard was tied up by a blocker. Pollard spun to the outside, peeling off the defender and continued his spin back inside (virtually coming backwards at the returner, now facing the same direction as the returner and then came up on his back as he was slowed by Page) and then stripped the ball out from behind. But it wasn't in his arms, it kind of floated in front of his chest as he fell, so he got it between one arm and his chest and brought his legs up as he fell. AND fought off the invading arm of a Cleveland player who was falling on top of him. Friggin' amazing athleticism and focus. Time and time again, he brought in amazing, impossible, big plays like this last year. It's going to be awesome to watch this guy this year.
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06-26-2007, 12:50 AM	#31
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3106954	The SS I would compare Pollard too is John Lynch (without the cheap shots), he will just lay you out. I would compare Page to Reed (like it was previously said, hes a ballhawking safty). I'm definatly not saying they will be as good as them, thats just who I would compare them too. They both have really good potential, I just hope they live up to it.
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06-26-2007, 12:55 AM	#32
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06-26-2007, 08:18 AM	#41
Demonpenz Woman should only make babies Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $-253864	I honestly must be slipping. I still thought westly was still around. My judgement for pollard will be served when he actually starts playing at saftey. I saw alot of the big 10 when he was there and I wasn't overly impressed. Other than when he jackhammered that gopher __________________
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06-26-2007, 08:39 AM	#42
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2083447	Wesley is around. Highly doubtful he beats either of the young guys out for a spot.
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