MICHAEL VICK INDICTED!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3

Ebolapox · 07-17-2007, 05:13 PM

vick's favorite cd?

tommykat · 07-17-2007, 05:14 PM

Samething posted on KFFL....
Falcons | Details of Vick's indictment
Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:59:04 -0700ESPN.com reports Atlanta Falcons QB Michael Vick has been indicted for conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture. If Vick is found guilty on the traveling part of the indictment, he could face up to five years in prison, pay a $250,000 fine and full restitution. If he is found guilty on the animal fighting venture part of the indictment, he could face up to a year in prison, pay a $100,000 fine, or both. Vick would also have to forfeit anything he gained from the proceeds of the dog fights.

Ebolapox · 07-17-2007, 05:14 PM

vick apparently spent too much time in his favorite theme park...

dogpatch usa

Adept Havelock · 07-17-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

vick apparently spent too much time in his favorite theme park...

dogpatch usa

I wonder what he's been fighting there? Place has gone to hell since I was a kid.

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**Skip Towne** · 07-17-2007, 05:43 PM

It's a doggone shame.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-17-2007, 05:24 PM

He'll probably settle out of court. I don't think this will go to trial.

My guess is that he'll have to pay the maximum fine involved, get a 5 year probation period, community service and be suspended by the NFL for 8 games before appeal.

If he chooses to go to trial, throw everything out the window. I don't think his lawyers will allow him to do that though.

Joe Seahawk · 07-17-2007, 05:28 PM

I wonder if the Falcons play in Cleveland this year.

The DAWG Pound would have a hayday..

chiefqueen · 07-17-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk

I wonder if the Falcons play in Cleveland this year.

The DAWG Pound would have a hayday..

No, they don't ATL plays the AFC South this year.

Coach · 07-17-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He'll probably settle out of court. I don't think this will go to trial.

My guess is that he'll have to pay the maximum fine involved, get a 5 year probation period, community service and be suspended by the NFL for 8 games before appeal.

If he chooses to go to trial, throw everything out the window. I don't think his lawyers will allow him to do that though.

You can't settle out of court of a criminal case. More than likely it will be going to trail, me thinks.

**Dave Lane** · 07-17-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

You can't settle out of court of a criminal case. More than likely it will be going to trail, me thinks.

You can plea bargain to a lesser charge / roll over on someone to get it dropped or reduced...

Dave

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-17-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

You can plea bargain to a lesser charge / roll over on someone to get it dropped or reduced...

Dave

What he said.

Coach · 07-17-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

You can plea bargain to a lesser charge / roll over on someone to get it dropped or reduced...

Dave

Even that, he won't get away. This is a Federal indictment, I don't think Vick and his posse can wave their magic wand and make this go away.

Here are some of the facts that are coming out about the indictment:

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In March 2003, after a pit bull from Bad Newz Kennels lost in a fight, it said Peace consulted with Vick about the losing dog's condition, then executed it by wetting it with water and electrocuting it;

In March 2003, after two Bad Newz Kennels dog lost fights to dogs owned by a cooperating witness, it alleged that Vick retrieved a bag containing $23,000 and gave it to the owner of the winning dogs. One of the fights had a $20,000 purse;

In the fall of 2003, a person witnessing a dog fight involving one of the dogs trained by Bad Newz Kennels incurred the ire of another cooperating witness by yelling out Vick's name in front of the crowd during the fight.
It also said that after establishing Bad Newz Kennels in early 2002, Vick and the others obtained shirts and headbands promoting their affiliation with the kennel.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7...PHCP&gt1=10239

These don't sound like trumped-up charges to me. They've got witnesses who were there, cooperating with the investigation, testifying. Vick could cop a plea, but remember, if he does that it's going to carry with it guilt, which means Goodall will wave *his* magic wand and suspend Vick, probably for a good long time.

I think he's in real deep shit here.

pikesome · 07-17-2007, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

I think he's in real deep shit here.

He's gonna need a big pooper-scooper then.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

trndobrd · 07-17-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He'll probably settle out of court. I don't think this will go to trial.

My guess is that he'll have to pay the maximum fine involved, get a 5 year probation period, community service and be suspended by the NFL for 8 games before appeal.

If he chooses to go to trial, throw everything out the window. I don't think his lawyers will allow him to do that though.

Don't be so quick to count Vick out! Like my Grandpa used to tell me, it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.

**cdcox** · 07-17-2007, 06:45 PM

Clayton's take. I'm not sure I agree that the Falcons will be able to start Vick all season. Dog lovers are going to crucify him. I'm not sure the Falcons will be able to stand the bad PR. This is a nightmare for that franchise.

Beginning of end for Vick in Atlanta?
By John Clayton
ESPN.com
(Archive)
Updated: July 17, 2007, 7:24 PM ET
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The Falcons put all of their hopes for 2007 in the hands of Michael Vick. Despite Tuesday's indictment of Vick in a Virginia dogfighting probe, the Falcons have no choice but to stand by him. The reason: Atlanta traded Vick's possible replacement, Matt Schaub, to Houston. At the time, it seemed to be the wise thing, and an indictment doesn't necessarily make that situation any different.

Owner Arthur Blank hired Bobby Petrino to make Vick a better quarterback. The owner believes Petrino's imaginative college style could be creative enough to make Vick a more accomplished thrower. Vick's dedication in spending extra time working at the team facility this offseason gave Blank hope that his plan was correct.

The problem facing Vick and the Falcons now is the case, which could consume most of the season, and could bring down the team. Blank must presume Vick is innocent and let the legal process take its course. Commissioner Roger Goodell must do the same. Vick must be treated as a first-time offender in the league's new conduct policy, so he must be found guilty or admit guilt before the commissioner can suspend him.

While standing by Vick appears to be the short-term solution, there should be no doubt 2007 is the beginning of the end of the Vick era in Atlanta. Blank is a businessman who espouses high principles. Vick is the face of the franchise and a sports icon in the Southeast. Whether he's guilty or innocent, Vick would have to prove the federal government made a major mistake in indicting him to salvage his reputation throughout the area.

Cases such as these are hard to prove. Nevertheless, whatever evidence is presented against Vick is going to cause permanent damage. Dogfighting is an illegal and disgusting sport. A sports star can't be linked to such activity. Watch how fast sponsors and advertisers bail on Vick now.

From the football side, though, Petrino and Blank must let Vick report to training camp and be the starter for this season. Joey Harrington is the backup. While Harrington did some good things in resurrecting his career in Miami, he is not going to make the Falcons a playoff team, and Blank and Petrino aren't going to accept anything less than a playoff trip.

With the indictment hanging over him, though, Vick can't go into seclusion. He'll be asked questions about the case at every news conference. For now, the 2007 season belongs to Vick. But one gets the feeling it's going to be an ugly ending to an era in Atlanta sports that started with so much promise.

John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com.

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tommykat zzzz Kats always Join Date: Mar 2001 Casino cash: $9994925	Samething posted on KFFL.... Falcons \| Details of Vick's indictment Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:59:04 -0700ESPN.com reports Atlanta Falcons QB Michael Vick has been indicted for conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture. If Vick is found guilty on the traveling part of the indictment, he could face up to five years in prison, pay a $250,000 fine and full restitution. If he is found guilty on the animal fighting venture part of the indictment, he could face up to a year in prison, pay a $100,000 fine, or both. Vick would also have to forfeit anything he gained from the proceeds of the dog fights. __________________ Take that KC helmet and just
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07-17-2007, 06:45 PM	#15
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-478231	Clayton's take. I'm not sure I agree that the Falcons will be able to start Vick all season. Dog lovers are going to crucify him. I'm not sure the Falcons will be able to stand the bad PR. This is a nightmare for that franchise. Beginning of end for Vick in Atlanta? By John Clayton ESPN.com (Archive) Updated: July 17, 2007, 7:24 PM ET Comment Email Print The Falcons put all of their hopes for 2007 in the hands of Michael Vick. Despite Tuesday's indictment of Vick in a Virginia dogfighting probe, the Falcons have no choice but to stand by him. The reason: Atlanta traded Vick's possible replacement, Matt Schaub, to Houston. At the time, it seemed to be the wise thing, and an indictment doesn't necessarily make that situation any different. Owner Arthur Blank hired Bobby Petrino to make Vick a better quarterback. The owner believes Petrino's imaginative college style could be creative enough to make Vick a more accomplished thrower. Vick's dedication in spending extra time working at the team facility this offseason gave Blank hope that his plan was correct. The problem facing Vick and the Falcons now is the case, which could consume most of the season, and could bring down the team. Blank must presume Vick is innocent and let the legal process take its course. Commissioner Roger Goodell must do the same. Vick must be treated as a first-time offender in the league's new conduct policy, so he must be found guilty or admit guilt before the commissioner can suspend him. While standing by Vick appears to be the short-term solution, there should be no doubt 2007 is the beginning of the end of the Vick era in Atlanta. Blank is a businessman who espouses high principles. Vick is the face of the franchise and a sports icon in the Southeast. Whether he's guilty or innocent, Vick would have to prove the federal government made a major mistake in indicting him to salvage his reputation throughout the area. Cases such as these are hard to prove. Nevertheless, whatever evidence is presented against Vick is going to cause permanent damage. Dogfighting is an illegal and disgusting sport. A sports star can't be linked to such activity. Watch how fast sponsors and advertisers bail on Vick now. From the football side, though, Petrino and Blank must let Vick report to training camp and be the starter for this season. Joey Harrington is the backup. While Harrington did some good things in resurrecting his career in Miami, he is not going to make the Falcons a playoff team, and Blank and Petrino aren't going to accept anything less than a playoff trip. With the indictment hanging over him, though, Vick can't go into seclusion. He'll be asked questions about the case at every news conference. For now, the 2007 season belongs to Vick. But one gets the feeling it's going to be an ugly ending to an era in Atlanta sports that started with so much promise. John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com.
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