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Old 11-22-2007, 11:31 AM  
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Who will be the Chiefs Offensive Coordinator next season...
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:19 PM   #31
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Oh you're right, I think we do have talent on offense. Aside from OT, maybe either a G or C. We're pretty talented overall as a unit.

But that's the problem, I don't think Herm lets his coaches coach...I just don't see any improvement whoever the OC is?

Herm changed OC I think 2 or 3 times in NY. He threw them under the bus, yet the offense stayed the same.

He's not intellegent enough to know that what he's doing is wrong. Nor do I think he can place trust in his coaches? He'll blame other people for his problems but fail to step up and take responsibility himself, or hold himself accountable.

That how you lose credibility with your coaches, players. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he loses his team soon. We should fire Herm, hire Marty back, and then hire Cameron. Then I think Cameron would improve the offense.
Just say "No" to Marty.

I don't think the Dolphins will give up Cameron after only one season.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:21 PM   #32
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Just say "No" to Marty.

I don't think the Dolphins will give up Cameron after only one season.
man, i don't know if the Dolphins can go 0-16 and not fire the head coach.


and Marty might be ok since Cam Cameron has already proven himself to marty in san diego.

marty always coached scared ... Cameron broke him of that a little bit.


i'm no fan of "going back" but we could do worse than a shottenhiemer/Cameron combo.


but only if Cameron comes with him
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:24 PM   #33
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man, i don't know if the Dolphins can go 0-16 and not fire the head coach.
Given the fact that their O-Line is about equal to the Chiefs, they don't have a WR that fits the system, no QB, and an aging defense, I think the Dolphins give him a chance build a team.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:25 PM   #34
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Just say "No" to Marty.

I don't think the Dolphins will give up Cameron after only one season.
Why? He's 20x better then Herm.

The difference between Marty and Herm is, Marty lets his coaches coach.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:27 PM   #35
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man, i don't know if the Dolphins can go 0-16 and not fire the head coach.


and Marty might be ok since Cam Cameron has already proven himself to marty in san diego.

marty always coached scared ... Cameron broke him of that a little bit.


i'm no fan of "going back" but we could do worse than a shottenhiemer/Cameron combo.


but only if Cameron comes with him
I want no part of Marty.

I'm tired of always bringing in retreads.

I want to move forward.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:29 PM   #36
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Why? He's 20x better then Herm.

The difference between Marty and Herm is, Marty lets his coaches coach.
Yeah, let's see.

Joe Pendry.
Paul Hackett.
Jimmy Raye.

I'm betting the only reason he had Cameron on his staff is because he was given no choice.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:29 PM   #37
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Why? He's 20x better then Herm.

The difference between Marty and Herm is, Marty lets his coaches coach.
Marty didn't USED TO .....


he handcuffed the offense all the time when he was in KC


then he went to san diego who already had a QB and RB established ... that saved Marty, all he had to do was 'stay out'
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:30 PM   #38
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My dream choice was and still is Mike Martz

But since that isn't happening my more realistic choice would be Scott Linehan after the Lambs fire him.

Of course Curled Dick Face will most likely end up replacing Slowlari
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:31 PM   #39
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I want no part of Marty.

I'm tired of always bringing in retreads.

I want to move forward.
understand completely, it wouldn't be my first choice too.


i just don't know that herm will ever let a new coordinator come in and do his thing ..... marty didn't.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:33 PM   #40
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My dream choice was and still is Mike Martz

But since that isn't happening my more realistic choice would be Scott Linehan after the Lambs fire him.

Of course Curled Dick Face will most likely end up replacing Slowlari
Martz is bizarro Herm

the same thing only from the offensive side


if you get Martz you MUST get a dominate defensive coordinator would would command the respect of Martz and gets autonomy.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:34 PM   #41
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understand completely, it would be my first choice too.


i just don't know that herm will ever let a new coordinator come in and do his thing ..... marty didn't.
At the end of the day, let's not get this thing twisted.

This team won't move forward anyway until the Cheifs clean house in the FO and on the sidelines.

Herman ****ing Edwards will bring in some young talent while he's here, but until we make major changes, we'll continue to be mediocre.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:36 PM   #42
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At the end of the day, let's not get this thing twisted.

This team won't move forward anyway until the Chiefs clean house in the FO and on the sidelines.

Herman ****ing Edwards will bring in some young talent while he's here, but until we make major changes, we'll continue to be mediocre.
best thing going right now is that Herm is going young


at least defensively we should be young and hungry when he leaves.


our salary cap should be clean too
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:49 PM   #43
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It will probably be Solari.
I want Norv Turner after AJ Smith fires him.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:07 PM   #44
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I would have no problem with Herm as head coach IF:

1) He had a good offensive coordinator to whom he gave complete control over play calling and game planning.

2) He had a game day assistant that could keep him from making those 'risk aversion' decisions.

Seeing as these two things are highly unlikely to ever happen, I'm content to let Herm have another year or even two to get us the players we need for a real coach to take this team to the next level.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:14 PM   #45
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IMO, Carl & Herms stubborness will result in Solari coming back.

Personally, i'd like to see someone familiar with Coryell style brought in...theres nothing wrong with our playbook, we just need it to be used correctly.

I'd hate to see a new system implemented & have to endure the long learning curve it would bring, ESPECIALLY for Brodie.

Continuity is the keyword for 08.
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