Football Looks like the old LJ is back - Page 3

Demonpenz · 09-21-2008, 05:36 PM

I didn't get to see the game because I went to pointfest. I know we lost the game, but I read the box score. Looks like we got LJ back. Tough running s.o.b. Go LJ !! and chiefs!

KCUnited · 09-23-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

If not for that 1 run, his stats would still blow ass.

Take away Turner's 38 yd run and he would've only had 66 yrds for the game. Take away Norwood's 44 yd run and he would've only had 31 yards for the day.

KCrockaholic · 09-23-2008, 10:38 AM

LJ is not back to the 2005/06 LJ at all. he still falls down if you touch his big toe, not the same...he got his money, he bitched, hes done...Jamaal Charles tries harder than LJ anyway...its funny when LJ is taken out after having runs of 1, 2, 1, 3, 2...then they put in Charles on 3rd down, he rips off 11 yards.

talastan · 09-23-2008, 10:41 AM

The difference was we started using the running game to attack the perimeter instead of just stuffing LJ up the middle for one, or two yds. After a couple of series of constant LJ up the middle, you'd think that the coaches would think, "Hmmm, they're waiting for Larry with eight in the box, maybe we should run around the box, or send Charles around the box?" Once they started running that pitch out to Larry he actually broke for some yardage. While I think LJ hasn't given 100% I'll also say that the game planning and coaching is mostly to blame for the situation.

Redrum_69 · 09-23-2008, 10:42 AM

WAIT....LJ is back?

so no more pass blocking, more ME ME ME attitude...and when can we expect a rap album out with Jay-Z, Yung Joc, and Eminem about diapers...with LJ busting out the lyrical rhymes.

Red Brooklyn · 09-23-2008, 10:46 AM

Here's my take -

Atlanta quit crowding the box at the start of the 2nd half because we ran anit-Herm Ball. By which I mean, we put together a compedent passing drive which opened up our running game in the 2nd half. That's the number one reason LJ looked better.

The second reason is that (as has already been pointed out) we allowed him to run a varity of plays. He didn't just charge staight ahead.

The third reason LJ looked better is that he looked pissed. Everyone remembers the whole "he runs angry" thing, well we did see a spark of that again. He has lost a little spead, and he seems uwilling (unable?) to totally commit to just running the 'f' over someone. It's like he wants to be a finese back... which we all know he is not. It was nice to see him "run angry" again. I have to admit...

But is the "old LJ" back? I don't think so. But he did look good for a minute there. I hope he can keep it up. But a lot of his success depends on the defensive package, the O-line, our offensive scheme, and on LJ getting back to running over people instead of trying to studder-step and tip-toe through collapsing holes. When he grabs the ball and runs he usually makes the hole before it disappears. He looked better. Not great. Nowhere near "glory days" good.

Red Brooklyn · 09-23-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrum_69

WAIT....LJ is back?

so no more pass blocking, more ME ME ME attitude...and when can we expect a rap album out with Jay-Z, Yung Joc, and Eminem about diapers...with LJ busting out the lyrical rhymes.

**SAUTO** · 09-23-2008, 11:12 AM

eveyone saying that he didnt run people over must not have watched the game very closely, a couple of his rushes before the big one he ran over not one guy but two, it mightve been just before half i'll have to go back and rewatch, also on the play from the goalline, if lj had been in for all the downs he also probably wouldve scored, charles didnt do anything on his run and then we throw lj back in and he gets us to the 1 inch line, if he would have had 3-4 shots at it he would have scored the way he was running at that point,

Red Brooklyn · 09-23-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

eveyone saying that he didnt run people over must not have watched the game very closely, a couple of his rushes before the big one he ran over not one guy but two, it mightve been just before half i'll have to go back and rewatch, also on the play from the goalline, if lj had been in for all the downs he also probably wouldve scored, charles didnt do anything on his run and then we throw lj back in and he gets us to the 1 inch line, if he would have had 3-4 shots at it he would have scored the way he was running at that point,

no, you're right. he was certainly doing a fair amount of it during the game. Not what I remember in years past, but certainly an improvement from the last couple of weeks. I get frustrated and hot-headed and tend to speak in generalities. But you're right. Gotta give LJ his due. He looked much better than he has. When he runs right over people he succeeds. It's when he tries to finesse the D that he gets stuffed. Certainly, the way he was running late, I was surprised they didn't give him 3 or 4 shots at the endzone on that drive.

Micjones · 09-23-2008, 11:31 AM

He ran hard and seemed to have better vision, but we were playing against a softened Atlanta defense in the Second Half. I need to see one more week to believe he's back to form.

Redrum_69 · 09-23-2008, 11:31 AM

Chiefs need to trade LJ for whatever they can get out of him

I'd settle for someone who can pass block for starters.

LJ will never be an LT...why have a cancerous leech on a team that is rebuilding..when Charles and Smith are more better backs than LJ ever thought.

LJ is just a legacy...part of the vermeil era..and another reason why the regime of peterson needs removed

**SAUTO** · 09-23-2008, 11:34 AM

"more better backs than lj ever thought"? are you crazy? neither one are the rb lj is, maybe better blockers but not better backs

StcChief · 09-23-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

You sir are a douchbag. Is Midnight Vulture your bed buddy?

twin son's of different mothers.

**bogey** · 09-23-2008, 11:40 AM

blah, blah, blah. They all suck, including Larry ****ing Johnson. He starts falling before he gets to the line, and then he falls forward for two yards. That's on a good run.

**SAUTO** · 09-23-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bogey

blah, blah, blah. They all suck, including Larry ****ing Johnson. He starts falling before he gets to the line, and then he falls forward for two yards. That's on a good run.

oh yeah and you really watched the game

Molitoth · 09-23-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Take away Turner's 38 yd run and he would've only had 66 yrds for the game. Take away Norwood's 44 yd run and he would've only had 31 yards for the day.

It's the Falcons. Turner/Norwood are not supposed to be good.

09-21-2008, 05:36 PM
Demonpenz Woman should only make babies Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $-203864	Looks like the old LJ is back I didn't get to see the game because I went to pointfest. I know we lost the game, but I read the box score. Looks like we got LJ back. Tough running s.o.b. Go LJ !! and chiefs!
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09-23-2008, 10:38 AM	#32
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $3462900	LJ is not back to the 2005/06 LJ at all. he still falls down if you touch his big toe, not the same...he got his money, he bitched, hes done...Jamaal Charles tries harder than LJ anyway...its funny when LJ is taken out after having runs of 1, 2, 1, 3, 2...then they put in Charles on 3rd down, he rips off 11 yards.
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09-23-2008, 10:41 AM	#33
talastan Manning, we're coming for you! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Springfield, Mo Casino cash: $10004950	The difference was we started using the running game to attack the perimeter instead of just stuffing LJ up the middle for one, or two yds. After a couple of series of constant LJ up the middle, you'd think that the coaches would think, "Hmmm, they're waiting for Larry with eight in the box, maybe we should run around the box, or send Charles around the box?" Once they started running that pitch out to Larry he actually broke for some yardage. While I think LJ hasn't given 100% I'll also say that the game planning and coaching is mostly to blame for the situation. __________________ Can we please just draft AND DEVELOP a QB - est. since 1983 Check out my band: Truett and the Traitors
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09-23-2008, 10:42 AM	#34
Redrum_69 Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: your nightmares Casino cash: $10004900	WAIT....LJ is back? so no more pass blocking, more ME ME ME attitude...and when can we expect a rap album out with Jay-Z, Yung Joc, and Eminem about diapers...with LJ busting out the lyrical rhymes.
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09-23-2008, 10:46 AM	#35
Red Brooklyn Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Some Dude's asshole Casino cash: $8021398	Here's my take - Atlanta quit crowding the box at the start of the 2nd half because we ran anit-Herm Ball. By which I mean, we put together a compedent passing drive which opened up our running game in the 2nd half. That's the number one reason LJ looked better. The second reason is that (as has already been pointed out) we allowed him to run a varity of plays. He didn't just charge staight ahead. The third reason LJ looked better is that he looked pissed. Everyone remembers the whole "he runs angry" thing, well we did see a spark of that again. He has lost a little spead, and he seems uwilling (unable?) to totally commit to just running the 'f' over someone. It's like he wants to be a finese back... which we all know he is not. It was nice to see him "run angry" again. I have to admit... But is the "old LJ" back? I don't think so. But he did look good for a minute there. I hope he can keep it up. But a lot of his success depends on the defensive package, the O-line, our offensive scheme, and on LJ getting back to running over people instead of trying to studder-step and tip-toe through collapsing holes. When he grabs the ball and runs he usually makes the hole before it disappears. He looked better. Not great. Nowhere near "glory days" good.
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09-23-2008, 11:12 AM	#37
SAUTO Shit Join Date: Jun 2008 Casino cash: $10039067	eveyone saying that he didnt run people over must not have watched the game very closely, a couple of his rushes before the big one he ran over not one guy but two, it mightve been just before half i'll have to go back and rewatch, also on the play from the goalline, if lj had been in for all the downs he also probably wouldve scored, charles didnt do anything on his run and then we throw lj back in and he gets us to the 1 inch line, if he would have had 3-4 shots at it he would have scored the way he was running at that point,
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09-23-2008, 11:31 AM	#39
Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	He ran hard and seemed to have better vision, but we were playing against a softened Atlanta defense in the Second Half. I need to see one more week to believe he's back to form.
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09-23-2008, 11:34 AM	#41
SAUTO Shit Join Date: Jun 2008 Casino cash: $10039067	"more better backs than lj ever thought"? are you crazy? neither one are the rb lj is, maybe better blockers but not better backs
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09-23-2008, 11:40 AM	#43
bogey Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Casino cash: $10005290	blah, blah, blah. They all suck, including Larry ****ing Johnson. He starts falling before he gets to the line, and then he falls forward for two yards. That's on a good run.
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