Chiefs Jared Allen <=> Brandon Albert? - Page 3

**petegz28** · 12-01-2008, 08:03 AM

I would throw Dorsey in the mix but Albert has been the only one performing. Now, was Albert worth trading Allen?

I say, yes. Albert has been great for a rookie who did not play the pre-season, etc, etc. I think good-great LT's are a more valued commodity than a good-great DE.

So with all the talk going on about Allen, was Albert worth the trade?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-01-2008, 09:34 AM

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Alfonso Boone.

Your and idiot.

Brock · 12-01-2008, 09:38 AM

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Alfonso Boone.

is not worth mentioning.

EyePod · 12-01-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Lets see how long and at what cost it takes to replace Allen. People are talking about taking Orakpo in the top 5. He'll demand money similar to Allen and who knows if he will be any good.

I don't think he'll be getting money similar to Allen. I mean, JA got the biggest deal for a defensive end, didn't he? I agree that we miss him, but this is rebuilding. We shouldn't pay someone like JA when we're this terrible.

Brock · 12-01-2008, 09:52 AM

Orakpo might not be Jared Allen, but he also isn't on the verge of being suspended for a season if he takes the wrong cold medicine or whatever.

BigChiefFan · 12-01-2008, 09:53 AM

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I don't think he'll be getting money similar to Allen. I mean, JA got the biggest deal for a defensive end, didn't he? I agree that we miss him, but this is rebuilding. We shouldn't pay someone like JA when we're this terrible.

So we should let Thiggy walk when his contract is up?Afterall the team still sucks.

EyePod · 12-01-2008, 09:53 AM

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In order for the Chiefs defensive scheme to work the DT's have to be able to draw double teams, plug the middle, and still collapse the pocket. That is a lot to ask from the big guys in the middle. This means they need to be real athletes not just mid-level DT's. I agree with Hamas (

did I say that?) it was a position of need.

In my opinion this defense starts with the DT's. But, since so much responsibility is placed on the DL they also need quality DE's, which is why I see it as the highest need in the coming draft.

Well you're completely wrong. The cover 2 needs PASS RUSH 1st!!! Dorsey has been drawing double teams, and I'm pretty sure they've been doubling Tank too. Our DE's are so bad that they can be easily singled. Plus, without a pass rush, it puts too much pressure on our secondary (especially DB's built for the cover 2).

Chiefnj2 · 12-01-2008, 10:02 AM

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Orakpo might not be Jared Allen, but he also isn't on the verge of being suspended for a season if he takes the wrong cold medicine or whatever.

Allen isn't on the verge of being suspended a year either. His slate was wiped clean months ago.

Brock · 12-01-2008, 10:03 AM

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Allen isn't on the verge of being suspended a year either. His slate was wiped clean months ago.

At the time he was and it wasn't.

BigChiefFan · 12-01-2008, 10:11 AM

Tamba Hali will save us!

Chiefnj2 · 12-01-2008, 10:18 AM

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At the time he was and it wasn't.

JARED ALLEN OUT OF THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM
Posted by Mike Florio on September 25, 2008, 9:45 a.m. EDT
Every Vikings fan can now exhale. Defensive end Jared Allen is no longer one crazy Friday night away from a one-year suspension.

Per the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Allen is out of the league’s substance abuse program. Moving forward, a positive test will not subject him to a suspension.

“I don’t have to tell them where I travel to anymore,” Allen said. “I’m back to being a normal citizen in the NFL.”

Allen doesn’t have to keep the league informed as to his whereabouts because “membership” in the program requires players to be available at a moment’s notice for an unannounced test.

Though it makes Allen’s day-to-day life easier, the absence of the constant threat of a drug and alcohol test means that the temptation to get reacquainted will the Reverend Al K. Hall could return. And so it’s now more important that ever, in our view, for Allen to remain dedicated to avoiding the liquid poison that nearly derailed his NFL career.

Brock · 12-01-2008, 10:20 AM

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September 25, 2008, 9:45 a.m. EDT

This was long after the draft, yes?

Chiefnj2 · 12-01-2008, 10:36 AM

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This was long after the draft, yes?

I posted the link to refute your claim that his slate wasn't wiped clean. It was known prior to the draft that it could possibly be wiped clean early in the 2008 season.

Brock · 12-01-2008, 10:39 AM

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I posted the link to refute your claim that his slate wasn't wiped clean. It was known prior to the draft that it could possibly be wiped clean early in the 2008 season.

I said "At the time". As in "At the time of the whole Jared Allen fiasco". Your link didn't refute anything.

Brock · 12-01-2008, 10:43 AM

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It was known prior to the draft that it could possibly be wiped clean early in the 2008 season.

Link?

**ShortRoundChief** · 12-01-2008, 11:02 AM

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I posted the link to refute your claim that his slate wasn't wiped clean. It was known prior to the draft that it could possibly be wiped clean early in the 2008 season.

It is known at this time that I could possibly win a million dollars playing lotto.

12-01-2008, 08:03 AM
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