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KCJohnny · 12-25-2008, 05:04 AM

Shop For Free Agents: Who would You Pick Up?

Scout.com 2009 Free Agency Rankings

Chiefs have only 17 players on the 47 man roster with 4 years or more experience. That's 18 rookies, 30 guys total in their 3rd year or less. That makes Kansas City the youngest team in the NFL. The departure of players like Pat Surtain, Damon Huard and Donnie Edwards would make the Chiefs even less bouyed by experience.

The Chiefs will in all likelihood bid on some of the players listed at site linked to above. Anybody got your attention? With the team $32 mil under the salary cap, I think the FO can afford a bit of a shopping spree.

Me? Julius Peppers and Albert Haynesworth would look great in red & gold. Safetyman Yeremiah Bell is only in his 5th year.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,
KCJohnny

JohnnyV13 · 12-25-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

I don't disagree but it's not like free agency isn't important.

Mecca, you're correct. FA IS different, because teams manage the cap better. BUT, Mecca, I think you're too young to remember the circumstances surrounding Hasty's arrival. Hasty was widely HATED in NY. Jets fans had as much respect for Hasty as we do for Crispy and Toasty. The the problem was, the Jets tended to play their corners in off coverage. Such a style simply didn't suit Hasty's talents. You can STILL find misused players in FA. Look at Kawicka Mitchell.

milkman · 12-25-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Mecca, you're correct. FA IS different, because teams manage the cap better. BUT, Mecca, I think you're too young to remember the circumstances surrounding Hasty's arrival. Hasty was widely HATED in NY. Jets fans had as much respect for Hasty as we do for Crispy and Toasty. The the problem was, the Jets tended to play their corners in off coverage. Such a style simply didn't suit Hasty's talents. You can STILL find misused players in FA. Look at Kawicka Mitchell.

And Hasty wasn't what was considered a "conerstone" free agent.

As it turned out he, and almost every other player you named, played at a far higher level than anyone anticipated.

The only player that one would call a "cornerstone" free agent at the time of his signing was Marcus Allen.

BigChiefFan · 12-25-2008, 06:42 PM

Free agency is just fine. Teams find good players in FA EVERY YEAR.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-25-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Matt Cassel and Antonio Bryant would be at the top my list.

ChiefsCountry · 12-25-2008, 07:27 PM

Suggs is the only player we should consider. Other than that look at alot of tier 3 guys like the Darling types we signed this year. Some of those can hit big in the right situation. Other than I would hold out until 2010 or 2011.

ChiefsCountry · 12-25-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Says who? You ascribe to a subjective orthodoxy that you assume all fans must by needs follow. Chiefs fans should note that Lenny Dawson was the equivalent to a FA and he was THE cornerstone of the Kansas City Chiefs to include 2 SB appearances.

Len Dawson was basically a waiver wire pickup. It would be like picking up Joey Harrington.

bowener · 12-25-2008, 07:28 PM

Ive been wanting people to give me some wisdom on Angelo Crowell as an OLB rotation player and possible starter. He isn't a young buck really, I think 27. He was injured this entire year due to knee injuries, and before that I think he only started one season, but in the times he got to play he was pretty good. I was wanting to know if he comes back from the knee injury without any decline, is he worth giving a cheap contract to? It would seem he would be pretty cheap since he is a little older and was hurt. I think he would be better than D. Williams.

I also wanted some info on the Rams backup/starting LDE, Victor Adeyanju. He is 6'4" 280 lbs and was supposed to be a good prospect coming out of college to be a pass rusher as a RDE off the edge, if I remember right. He has been in the league 3 years and is only 25. I was wondering if we could throw him into our DE lineup, and with better coaching, we would hopefully get more out of him and the rest of our DL.

KCCHIEFS27 · 12-25-2008, 07:28 PM

So, for the most part, here is what I'm understanding from some of you. We need to continue to sign complementary players, such as, Domarrio Williams(5th highest paid player on the team)? Otherwise, anybody else with a higher skill set would be a complete waste of money? Really though, with a new GM coming in and hopefully a lot of other fresh personnel, don't you think some of those big time FA might give us a look now? Especially with Herm being a "player's coach".

bowener · 12-25-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KCCHIEFS27

So, for the most part, here is what I'm understanding from some of you. We need to continue to sign complementary players, such as, Domarrio Williams(5th highest paid player on the team)? Otherwise, anybody else with a higher skill set would be a complete waste of money? Really though, with a new GM coming in and hopefully a lot of other fresh personnel, don't you think some of those big time FA might give us a look now? Especially with Herm being a "player's coach".

I think we should sign who ever can help this shit get turned around. I realize most huge names aren't going to make it to the market, but I think with all this youth, adding an experienced younger star would go a hell of a long ways for us, especially on defense.

And in response to above, I think we will get a lot more of a look because of the large quantity of George Washington's we will be sitting on. Don't forget it will grow larger once we dump Surtain.

KCJohnny · 12-25-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

Also wasnt Abraham a FA? dude has 16.5 sacks and has his team in the play offs as well. hehe

I think you can go for a top tier player, but you have to be smart about it and dont get a dud.

Porter and Abraham.

Point.

KCJohnny · 12-25-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

You CANNOT pick up cornerstone players in FA. Priest Holmes was really over-rated and actually useless. Casey Weigman was a terrible player who was carried by Brian Waters and Will Shields. Marcus Allen actually hurt the Chiefs. His presence set back this franchise for over a decade. We picked up Rich Gannon in FA, thank God we got rid of that loser before he harmed the team. James Hasty is simply a Chiefs planet myth, created by one play where Marty Schottenheimer kissed his bald head after he intercepted the raiders to produce a touchdown in overtime. Hasty actually ruined the secondary and disrupted team harmony. I can tell few here remember the disaster that was Glenn Parker and how he ruined our offensive line in 1997 and 1998.

Forget about free agents.They're worthless!

Nice!

ChiefsCountry · 12-25-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

Also wasnt Abraham a FA? dude has 16.5 sacks and has his team in the play offs as well. hehe

I think you can go for a top tier player, but you have to be smart about it and dont get a dud.

Abraham was traded to Atlanta for a first round pick.

RustShack · 12-25-2008, 08:33 PM

I really wouldn't mind having Haynesworth next to Dorsey...

RustShack · 12-25-2008, 08:33 PM

And with Dorsey at UT next year...

**banyon** · 12-25-2008, 08:34 PM

Wow. KCJ just can't wait to get back to 8-8. He's really going to miss Carl.

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