Football Jets Release Laveranues Coles - Page 3

**doomy3** · 02-25-2009, 03:29 PM

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Just Passin' By · 02-25-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42

Missing my point. Why bring on a tired old reciever that isn't going to give us half the output he used to have so he can sit and collect a paycheck to be unproductive.

I thought we were trying to break away from the stigma of the "last stop before retirement" that we developed over the last several years.

Signing Coles would be counter-productive to the goals of the team right now in my opinion.

And just because so and so was released by some other team doesn not mean that he should automaitcally warrant a contract or even necessarily a look at by the Chiefs.

Brace yourself, because Pioli will probably try signing more than one grizzled veteran to the Chiefs.

talastan · 02-25-2009, 04:33 PM

Vet min IMO only. If Pioli could manage it like they did with the Moss arrangement, only w/o draft picks then I'd be fine for him to play opposite of Bowe and then look to next year's draft for Coles' replacement.

**doomy3** · 02-25-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42

Missing my point. Why bring on a tired old reciever that isn't going to give us half the output he used to have so he can sit and collect a paycheck to be unproductive.

I thought we were trying to break away from the stigma of the "last stop before retirement" that we developed over the last several years.

Signing Coles would be counter-productive to the goals of the team right now in my opinion.

And just because so and so was released by some other team doesn not mean that he should automaitcally warrant a contract or even necessarily a look at by the Chiefs.

At some point we need to sign some players. We have so many holes, and it isn't possible to fill them all through the draft immediately. Whether it's a rookie QB or Thigpen, we will need options at WR and Coles can still play. Haley's offense is predicated on having WRs that can stretch the field, so I would say a guy like Coles makes a lot of sense for a couple years until we can find a younger option.

blueballs · 02-25-2009, 04:37 PM

Like all defensive FAs will have to go through Krummie's slap test
the offensive FAs will have to through Thiggies jump/crouch test

Reerun_KC · 02-25-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Brace yourself, because Pioli will probably try signing more than one grizzled veteran to the Chiefs.

What the hell is a grizzled veteran?

Basileus777 · 02-25-2009, 04:38 PM

Coles can't stretch the field, the guy is more of a possession receiver. He isn't all that good at getting separation.

CaliforniaChief · 02-25-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by talastan

Vet min IMO only. If Pioli could manage it like they did with the Moss arrangement, only w/o draft picks then I'd be fine for him to play opposite of Bowe and then look to next year's draft for Coles' replacement.

Exactly. Signing him wouldn't have the same cap impact that it had when we handed out stupid contracts to Kendrell Bell, Surtain, etc....I think it would be helpful. It's not like we'd be building the team around Coles.

blueballs · 02-25-2009, 04:40 PM

Coles can't buy a house in Leawood
like he's got back east
there's just not that much wood and stone

Just Passin' By · 02-25-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

What the hell is a grizzled veteran?

griz⋅zled
/ˈgrɪzəld/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [griz-uhld] Show IPA
–adjective
1. having gray or partly gray hair.
2. gray or partly gray.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=grizzled

kaplin42 · 02-25-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

If Coles comes cheap, it's not even close to being the same..

As stated above, if he came for Vet League Minimum, perhaps with some incentive bonuses attached I wouldnt see it as horrible. But chances are he will come at a much heavier price tag than that.

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Originally Posted by Claythan

Why? He can play. Who do you suggest our potential rookie quarterback throws to? Devard ****ing Darling and Mark ****ing Bradley?

Coles is a good stop gap until we can get a young deep threat in the draft.

And again, so could P. Surtain and Ty Law when the Chiefs picked them up. Or at least eveyone thought. Surtain at best was serviceable here and there, but never worth what was traded for and paid to him. And well, Ty Law was a joke and a half.

And I'm not arguing that the Chiefs could use a few good recievers. Bowe has the skills, unless the ball is thrown right into the numbers on his chest, and the others, well, we have other recievers on the team?

I just think Coles is not the player he used to be. He isn't going to stretch the field, and I don't really think he is an over the middle kind of guy. I really just believe it will be like watching the Surtain experiment all over again, just on he opposite side of the ball.

Basileus777 · 02-25-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42

I don't really think he is an over the middle kind of guy.

That's pretty much what he's always been. He had some speed earlier in his career, but he was never used primarily in deep patterns.

And the Surtain comparison is pretty ****ing weak. We wouldn't be trading away a draft pick or giving Coles a big contract to come here.

**the Talking Can** · 02-25-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

If Coles comes cheap, it's not even close to being the same.

Why? He can play. Who do you suggest our potential rookie quarterback throws to? Devard ****ing Darling and Mark ****ing Bradley?

Coles is a good stop gap until we can get a young deep threat in the draft.

according to you, Darling is awesome

Hammock Parties · 02-25-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42

I just think Coles is not the player he used to be.

He had 70 catches and 7 TDs last year.

Good luck getting that from any other receiver on the Chiefs right now.

**MahiMike** · 02-25-2009, 05:17 PM

Coles lives in Jax. They need a WR more than anybody...

Hammock Parties · 02-25-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Coles lives in Jax. They need a WR more than anybody...

The Jags will keep trying to win a SB with David ****ing Garrard!

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