Chiefs ranked 15th best QB corp. Guess who's 32nd?

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[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Didn't McDaniels say a month or two back that he was going to phase out the zone blocking scheme and run more of what he's used to?

He said he was going mix in a few of the Patriots running plays that didn't use the ZBS scheme. But the only offensive coaches he kept was our offensive line coach and our RB coach.

Georgia has used the ZBS for years, Knowshon is the third RB we have drafted from Georgia the past 14 years.

[milkman]

Gotta say, those rankings are nearly as ****ed as Homo 2724.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Originally Posted by milkman

Gotta say, those rankings are nearly as ****ed as Homo 2724.

Your telling me! They have us 15th, it's like they didn't even take into account the Cassel trade. We should be top 5 at least!!!!

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Oh yeah. I forgot about how the almighty YPC is the only statistic that matters. LT averaged 3.8 yards per carry. Brian Westbrook only averaged 4.0 yards per carry. What a bunch of chumps. You should be proud that you have three RBs, Peyton Hillis, Tatum Bell, AND Selvin Young who are better than LT and Westbrook! You guys are SO good. Just as I'm so excited that the Chiefs have a RB in Jamaal Charles, whose 5.3 YPC are better than most of the league too. Hell, those 4 RBs have better YPCs than 90% of the top 10 RBs in the league. Who knew that the AFC West (Denver and KC) were so loaded with RB talent.

Forte also had 63 receptions for 477 yards, which is one of the best among RBs. And oh, by the way, that tells you a lot about who Orton was relying on for a lot of his pass completions.

But by your argument, apparently Forte is better than LT, and Hillis/Charles/Bell/Young are too.

Ouch.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Oh yeah. I forgot about how the almighty YPC is the only statistic that matters. LT averaged 3.8 yards per carry. Brian Westbrook only averaged 4.0 yards per carry. What a bunch of chumps. You should be proud that you have three RBs, Peyton Hillis, Tatum Bell, AND Selvin Young who are better than LT and Westbrook! You guys are SO good. Just as I'm so excited that the Chiefs have a RB in Jamaal Charles, whose 5.3 YPC are better than most of the league too. Hell, those 4 RBs have better YPCs than 90% of the top 10 RBs in the league. Who knew that the AFC West (Denver and KC) were so loaded with RB talent.

Forte also had 63 receptions for 477 yards, which is one of the best among RBs. And oh, by the way, that tells you a lot about who Orton was relying on for a lot of his pass completions.

But by your argument, apparently Forte is better than LT, and Hillis/Charles/Bell/Young are too.

All I said was Knowshon will average at least 5.0 YPC this season. Then one of your Chiefs fans said I was crazy.

Orton didn't have anyone to throw the ball to last year. Devin Hester was his number 1 receiver and he is a converted CB. Hester would be a 4th or 5th string WR here.

Knowshon can do everything Forte can do and was a better back coming out of college than Forte. Knowshon is the most complete RB to come out since LT.

[LaChapelle]

This dupe just jumped the shark.

[Adept Havelock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Oh yeah. I forgot about how the almighty YPC is the only statistic that matters. LT averaged 3.8 yards per carry. Brian Westbrook only averaged 4.0 yards per carry. What a bunch of chumps. You should be proud that you have three RBs, Peyton Hillis, Tatum Bell, AND Selvin Young who are better than LT and Westbrook! You guys are SO good. Just as I'm so excited that the Chiefs have a RB in Jamaal Charles, whose 5.3 YPC are better than most of the league too. Hell, those 4 RBs have better YPCs than 90% of the top 10 RBs in the league. Who knew that the AFC West (Denver and KC) were so loaded with RB talent.

Forte also had 63 receptions for 477 yards, which is one of the best among RBs. And oh, by the way, that tells you a lot about who Orton was relying on for a lot of his pass completions.

But by your argument, apparently Forte is better than LT, and Hillis/Charles/Bell/Young are too.

Nicely done.

[Mr. Krab]

Pittsburgh is too high, they have a QB group of 1.
Texans should be higher. Grossman as your 3rd stringer is pretty good.
Giants should be higher as well.
Jags are too high

[JohnnyV13]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

We will see how Cassel does without Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Ben Watson, that offensive line, and Josh McDaniels.

Nobody on the Chiefs offense would start on the Patriots. I'm not knocking the Chiefs, its just that the Patriots are loaded.

Besides Cutler, there is nobody on Chicago's offense that would start for Denver.

LJ Bowe Brian Waters and Branden Albert would start for Denver.

So would Matt Cassel. Which is the whole reason McDaniels tried to acquire him.

Albert would not likely be LT, but he'd probably at least start at RT or guard. Waters is a 4 time pro bowl guard. Bowe would start over Eddie Royal and his 10.8 yards per catch.

LJ is a proven workhorse back, he'd start over a rookie.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Selvin Young averaged 5.0 yards per carry for us the last 2 years and he was undrafted.

Peyton Hillis averaged 5.0 yards per carry for us last year and was a 7th round pick drafted to be a FB.

Tatum Bell averaged 5.7 yards per carry last year and we picked him up out of a cell phone shop midseason.

P.J. Pope was on our practice squad all season and averaged 7.6 yards per carry for us last year in three games.

Ryan Torrain broke his elbow in Training camp and the first game he played for Denver he averaged 5.7 yards per carry.

Knowshon is better than all of those guys and he played in the zone blocking scheme in college. He fits in perfectly here.

must not have been good enough. still searching for a rb that can carry the team since there isn't a QB on the team.

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I think Kyle Orton is no worse than Matt Cassel. He is better than Jamarcus Russell, Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Brady Quinn, David Garrard, Byron Leftwich, Josh Freeman, Daunte Culpepper, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Kellen Clemens,Jason Campbell, and Sage Rosenfells.

I think after this season he will be considered one of the 10-15 best QB's in the league.

Yeah he impressed the shit out of me in Chicago.
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[BossChief]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

All I said was Knowshon will average at least 5.0 YPC this season. Then one of your Chiefs fans said I was crazy. Orton didn't have anyone to throw the ball to last year. Devin Hester was his number 1 receiver and he is a converted CB. Hester would be a 4th or 5th string WR here. Knowshon can do everything Forte can do and was a better back coming out of college than Forte. Knowshon is the most complete RB to come out since LT.

I wouldnt be surprised if he averaged 5/carry, hes a solid back and Denvers line is a good one. But I doubt very highly he is anywhere near a league leader in the Perkins-Ernhart spread system Josh is installing.

His ability to block blitzing linebackers and to sell fakes and recieve dump offs and turn them into big gains will dictate his success in the offense alot more than his consistant ability to run between the tackles as Forte did. If he misses a couple key blocks on a player like Shawne Merriman or Derrick Burgess, or any of the other premier pass rushers he will have to help the team block, you will be posting some homer shit that you are better off with Simms anyway.

Hester was never really a cb atMiami, he played many positions including wr. He never had a home position and thats the biggest reason he slipped a bit in the draft.

I look for a couple wrs in chicago to "come out of nowhere" now that they have a real nfl qb throwing the ball. Similar to when Brees first went to NO.

Good qbs make recieving corps better. They take 4th rounders and make them weapons. Cutler was one of those, Orton isnt.

blind homerism is a disease

[milkman]

Part time players at RB averaging 5+ yards a carry isn't all that unusual.

You realize that Terrell Davis only averaged 5+ yards in only one season, and that Jim Brown is the only RB in NFL history to average over 5 yards a carry for the course of his career.

[LaChapelle]

I love you Komodo24/7. Don't let 'em **** with ya. Can I by you a drinkie poo?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

Your telling me! They have us 15th, it's like they didn't even take into account the Cassel trade. We should be top 5 at least!!!!

Blind homerism is a disease

15 is taking into account the Casel trade, I assure you.

Without Cassel we would likely have a 25-32 ranking here.

I like TT, I do, but he only won 1 start.

I know the d sucked, and all the rest of the bigger reasons we lost, but he didnt exactly light the world on fire in the fourth (and most important to qbs) quarter and lead us on game winning drives.

Not saying either that he doesnt have what it takes to do so in the future, either.

I think 15 is generous, at this point, my friend!