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**Tribal Warfare** · 09-05-2009, 09:59 PM

Chiefs trim some veterans from roster
By KENT BABB
The Kansas City Star

The overhaul of the Chiefs’ defense has had its share of casualties, but Saturday’s roster cuts took another step toward reshaping the team.

Fourth-year safety Bernard Pollard and veteran linebacker Zach Thomas were the headliners of Saturday’s mandatory roster purge, as the Chiefs released 13 players and placed offensive lineman Colin Brown, a former Missouri player, on injured reserve.

The Chiefs also waived wide receiver Ashley Lelie, who was signed during training camp and was considered a potential speed threat for an offense that was stagnant through four preseason games, all losses.

The moves came a day after the Chiefs purged their corps of offensive linemen, letting go of veteran tackles Damion McIntosh and Herb Taylor. They released two other linemen Friday and another, guard Darryl Harris, on Saturday. With Brown’s move to injured reserve, one of the team’s weakest position groups is now down to eight players — the expected starters plus three reserves.

Coach Todd Haley has said the Chiefs would scour the waiver wire throughout the preseason, hoping to add talented players to a roster that became noticeably devoid of them. The offense scored two touchdowns in four games, and the quarterbacks frequently had to scramble to avoid constant pressure.

Haley wasn’t available to reporters Saturday.

The Chiefs kept their four quarterbacks, and they’ll move forward with plenty of passers but few reliable blockers to keep those quarterbacks healthy. Matt Cassel has a leg injury that kept him out of Thursday’s preseason finale at St. Louis, and the team hasn’t said whether he’ll be healthy in time for the regular-season opener next Sunday at Baltimore.

Health seemed to stand between Thomas, a seven-time Pro Bowl linebacker, and a 14th NFL season. He suffered an undisclosed injury early in training camp and missed all but five practice days. Thomas was expected to provide a veteran presence the team missed last year when it began a youth movement that has reshaped the roster but hasn’t led to many wins. During this year’s offseason practices, Thomas was seen as a mentor to young and veteran defenders, and linebacker Derrick Johnson said last month that Thomas’ leadership was valuable enough to warrant the veteran a roster spot, even if he couldn’t play.

“Everybody looks to Zach on everything,” Johnson said during training camp. “Zach is very much needed on this team.”

Age and health might have hurt Thomas’ chances, but those reasons didn’t apply to Pollard’s release. Pollard, a 24-year-old strong safety, was often the target of criticism for poor tackling and lackluster fundamentals, and the Chiefs signed veteran Mike Brown to push Pollard to improve on his weaknesses.

“Mike is a great player,” Pollard said after the Chiefs’ first preseason game. “Obviously, he’s played for nine years and been to the Pro Bowl. He’s a great guy and a great player.

“We’re going to compete against each other for the rest of the year. It’s not just going to be a one-time competition. We’re going to compete all the time and we’re going to try to bring the best out of each other.”

Pollard appeared to respond, spending almost all his time with the first-team defense during training camp and the preseason. Still, the Chiefs were reportedly trying this week to trade him.

Pollard’s release was an additional step by the Chiefs’ leadership to distance the team from the past. Pollard was a second-round pick in 2006, and he started 31 games in three seasons. With Pollard’s release, the Chiefs will begin the 2009 season with just 14 of the 26 draft picks taken during former coach Herm Edwards’ three years. Running back Kolby Smith, a fifth-round pick in 2007, was placed on injured reserve Friday.

If the released players clear waivers, they could be added to the Chiefs’ practice squad.

Quarterbacks (4): Matt Cassel, Brodie Croyle, Matt Gutierrez, Tyler Thigpen

Running back (5): Jackie Battle, Jamaal Charles, Mike Cox, Larry Johnson, Dantrell Savage

Wide receiver (5): Dwayne Bowe, Mark Bradley, Terrance Copper, Bobby Engram, Quinten Lawrence

Offensive line (8): Branden Albert, Andy Alleman, Mike Goff, Ikechuku Ndukwe, Rudy Niswanger, Barry Richardson, Wade Smith, Brian Waters

Tight end (3): Brad Cottam, Jake O’Connell, Sean Ryan

Defensive line (6): Glenn Dorsey, Ron Edwards, Wallace Gilberry, Tyson Jackson, Alex Magee, Tank Tyler,

Linebacker (10): Monty Beisel, Jovan Belcher, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Turk McBride, Corey Mays, Andy Studebaker, Mike Vrabel, Pierre Walters, Demorrio Williams

Defensive back (9): Mike Brown, Brandon Carr, Ricardo Colclough, Brandon Flowers, Maurice Leggett, Jon McGraw, DaJuan Morgan, Jarrad Page, Donald Washington

Specialists (3): Dustin Colquitt, Thomas Gafford, Ryan Succop

Just Passin' By · 09-06-2009, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Yea but I won the bet. Now maybe all these "dude your the worst poster on the planet" will

. I've never seen them be right on anything.

You should start a thread about this.

Titty Meat · 09-06-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You should start a thread about this.

Why? They'll just make up bullshit

kcxiv · 09-06-2009, 01:04 AM

At least i have the Lakers!!!!!
I have nothing else to say about this roster. haha Last few years i been looking forward to basketball more then football. Not even with the 2000-2003 Lakers did i look forward to them more then the Chiefs.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-06-2009, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by salame

how did thigpen stay?

I understand Pollard. The above I do not. I could literally kill Carl Peterson.

Hootie · 09-06-2009, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Dear God we're ****ed.

DUDE I AM LAUGHING MY ASS OFF AT YOU RIGHT NOW...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

OMG

OWNED!

Hootie · 09-06-2009, 01:31 AM

Dude...Pollard cut?

Hahahaha...

ROR...wow, shows a thing or two about your football knowledge...

(although, I am amazed...couldn't he have AT LEAST been a badass special teams guy?)

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-06-2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

DUDE I AM LAUGHING MY ASS OFF AT YOU RIGHT NOW...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

OMG

OWNED!

Well, you ARE the village idiot.

Hootie · 09-06-2009, 01:39 AM

hahaha...larry could rush for A YARD this year...and...you...owned!

ahhahahahahahaha

wow

I hate to see him go...I thought he could at least be a special teams ace...but ahahaha...it made you look like a dick ****, that's for sure!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-06-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

hahaha...larry could rush for A YARD this year...and...you...owned!

ahhahahahahahaha

wow

I hate to see him go...I thought he could at least be a special teams ace...but ahahaha...it made you look like a dick ****, that's for sure!

Wow. You really ARE ****ing reeruned, aren't you? But since you seem to like the idea of making me "look like a dick ****", why don't you man-up and jump on board the Cassel/Sanchez bet, and we'll see who's got football knowledge, and who's just a mouthy little ****.

Whadda ya' say, dipshit? You wanna' roll with the big time, or do wanna' continue to sit around with one thumb in your mouth and the other up your ass?

You're a ****ing punk, and I'll be MORE than happy to punk you too.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-06-2009, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Wow. You really ARE ****ing reeruned, aren't you? But since you seem to like the idea of making me "look like a dick ****", why don't you man-up and jump on board the Cassel/Sanchez bet, and we'll see who's got football knowledge, and who's just a mouthy little ****.

Whadda ya' say, dipshit? You wanna' roll with the big time, or do wanna' continue to sit around with one thumb in your mouth and the other up your ass?

You're a ****ing punk, and I'll be MORE than happy to punk you too.

WELL,
WE'RE WAITING...

Hootie · 09-06-2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Wow. You really ARE ****ing reeruned, aren't you? But since you seem to like the idea of making me "look like a dick ****", why don't you man-up and jump on board the Cassel/Sanchez bet, and we'll see who's got football knowledge, and who's just a mouthy little ****.

Whadda ya' say, dipshit? You wanna' roll with the big time, or do wanna' continue to sit around with one thumb in your mouth and the other up your ass?

You're a ****ing punk, and I'll be MORE than happy to punk you too.

what is the bet?

I like Cassel...

I also think Sanchez will be very good...I think he has the "it" factor...I've never said a bad thing about Sanchez one time...I don't make "bets" just to "bet"...I like Cassel...and I like Sanchez.

I have more faith in Sanchez than Stafford...I think Sanchez is a sure thing...I think Stafford could go either way.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-06-2009, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

what is the bet?

I like Cassel...

I also think Sanchez will be very good...I think he has the "it" factor...I've never said a bad thing about Sanchez one time...I don't make "bets" just to "bet"...I like Cassel...and I like Sanchez.

I have more faith in Sanchez than Stafford...I think Sanchez is a sure thing...I think Stafford could go either way.

The bet is total, end of season yards including rushing. Loser leaves the Planet.

Forever.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-06-2009, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

what is the bet?

I like Cassel...

I also think Sanchez will be very good...I think he has the "it" factor...I've never said a bad thing about Sanchez one time...I don't make "bets" just to "bet"...I like Cassel...and I like Sanchez.

I have more faith in Sanchez than Stafford...I think Sanchez is a sure thing...I think Stafford could go either way.

I think you're a back-tracking little ****. You wanna' talk about looking like "dick ****"? Go revisit the draft day thread. I'll give you a brief flashback/breakdown;

Round three:
Planeteers who know their shit:
"There's good O-Line to be had, WTF is this"?

Hootie the True Fan Dumb****:
"Blah-blah-blah Pioli, blah-blah-draftubators".

____________________________________

Round four:
Planeteers who know their shit:
"There's good O-Line to be had, WTF is this"?

Hootie the True Fan Dumb****:
"Blah-blah-blah Pioli, blah-blah-draftubators".

____________________________________

Round five:
Planeteers who know their shit:
"There's good O-Line to be had, WTF is this"?

Hootie the True Fan Dumb****:
"Blah-blah-blah Pioli, blah-blah-draftubators".

ETC., ETC., ETC.

And lo and behold, our 60 million dollar Quarterback comes one helmet knock to the knee away from being "Brady'd" for the rest of the year.
So the way I see it, you've got two choices:
You can either shut your mouth and listen every now and again to people who know a little more than you and perhaps learn something, or you can continue to be "Hootie the True Fan Dumb****".
And you can start right now.
Morgan won this roster spot not because he worked harder or beat Pollard in camp, but because unlike Pollard and Brown; he didn't look like a monkey ****ing a football on game day. Brown, to his credit, looked less "monkey-ish" on game day than Pollard, but not by much. He got a gift today.

I never wanted Pollard or anyone to remain on this roster at the expense of the team. I only hoped he might pull it together and begin to flourish under new management. I figured a guy who kept his head on straight, didn't abuse his situation or act like a baby and a ****ing dick head to his fan base might deserve the benefit of the doubt.
It didn't go down that way. So we move on. I can live with that.

**the Talking Can** · 09-06-2009, 04:54 AM

i can't think of a poster who has been owned as badly over a single player as raised on cum was with pollard...

i'm still laughing out loud...i laughed in my sleep it was so ****ing funny to see the piece shit get cut....

Tiger's Fan · 09-06-2009, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay

Yea but I won the bet. Now maybe all these "dude your the worst poster on the planet" will

. I've never seen them be right on anything.

It's because you're stupid in general. It really has nothing to do with football.

09-05-2009, 09:59 PM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2847187	Babb: Chiefs trim some veterans from roster Chiefs trim some veterans from roster By KENT BABB The Kansas City Star The overhaul of the Chiefs’ defense has had its share of casualties, but Saturday’s roster cuts took another step toward reshaping the team. Fourth-year safety Bernard Pollard and veteran linebacker Zach Thomas were the headliners of Saturday’s mandatory roster purge, as the Chiefs released 13 players and placed offensive lineman Colin Brown, a former Missouri player, on injured reserve. The Chiefs also waived wide receiver Ashley Lelie, who was signed during training camp and was considered a potential speed threat for an offense that was stagnant through four preseason games, all losses. The moves came a day after the Chiefs purged their corps of offensive linemen, letting go of veteran tackles Damion McIntosh and Herb Taylor. They released two other linemen Friday and another, guard Darryl Harris, on Saturday. With Brown’s move to injured reserve, one of the team’s weakest position groups is now down to eight players — the expected starters plus three reserves. Coach Todd Haley has said the Chiefs would scour the waiver wire throughout the preseason, hoping to add talented players to a roster that became noticeably devoid of them. The offense scored two touchdowns in four games, and the quarterbacks frequently had to scramble to avoid constant pressure. Haley wasn’t available to reporters Saturday. The Chiefs kept their four quarterbacks, and they’ll move forward with plenty of passers but few reliable blockers to keep those quarterbacks healthy. Matt Cassel has a leg injury that kept him out of Thursday’s preseason finale at St. Louis, and the team hasn’t said whether he’ll be healthy in time for the regular-season opener next Sunday at Baltimore. Health seemed to stand between Thomas, a seven-time Pro Bowl linebacker, and a 14th NFL season. He suffered an undisclosed injury early in training camp and missed all but five practice days. Thomas was expected to provide a veteran presence the team missed last year when it began a youth movement that has reshaped the roster but hasn’t led to many wins. During this year’s offseason practices, Thomas was seen as a mentor to young and veteran defenders, and linebacker Derrick Johnson said last month that Thomas’ leadership was valuable enough to warrant the veteran a roster spot, even if he couldn’t play. “Everybody looks to Zach on everything,” Johnson said during training camp. “Zach is very much needed on this team.” Age and health might have hurt Thomas’ chances, but those reasons didn’t apply to Pollard’s release. Pollard, a 24-year-old strong safety, was often the target of criticism for poor tackling and lackluster fundamentals, and the Chiefs signed veteran Mike Brown to push Pollard to improve on his weaknesses. “Mike is a great player,” Pollard said after the Chiefs’ first preseason game. “Obviously, he’s played for nine years and been to the Pro Bowl. He’s a great guy and a great player. “We’re going to compete against each other for the rest of the year. It’s not just going to be a one-time competition. We’re going to compete all the time and we’re going to try to bring the best out of each other.” Pollard appeared to respond, spending almost all his time with the first-team defense during training camp and the preseason. Still, the Chiefs were reportedly trying this week to trade him. Pollard’s release was an additional step by the Chiefs’ leadership to distance the team from the past. Pollard was a second-round pick in 2006, and he started 31 games in three seasons. With Pollard’s release, the Chiefs will begin the 2009 season with just 14 of the 26 draft picks taken during former coach Herm Edwards’ three years. Running back Kolby Smith, a fifth-round pick in 2007, was placed on injured reserve Friday. If the released players clear waivers, they could be added to the Chiefs’ practice squad. Quarterbacks (4): Matt Cassel, Brodie Croyle, Matt Gutierrez, Tyler Thigpen Running back (5): Jackie Battle, Jamaal Charles, Mike Cox, Larry Johnson, Dantrell Savage Wide receiver (5): Dwayne Bowe, Mark Bradley, Terrance Copper, Bobby Engram, Quinten Lawrence Offensive line (8): Branden Albert, Andy Alleman, Mike Goff, Ikechuku Ndukwe, Rudy Niswanger, Barry Richardson, Wade Smith, Brian Waters Tight end (3): Brad Cottam, Jake O’Connell, Sean Ryan Defensive line (6): Glenn Dorsey, Ron Edwards, Wallace Gilberry, Tyson Jackson, Alex Magee, Tank Tyler, Linebacker (10): Monty Beisel, Jovan Belcher, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Turk McBride, Corey Mays, Andy Studebaker, Mike Vrabel, Pierre Walters, Demorrio Williams Defensive back (9): Mike Brown, Brandon Carr, Ricardo Colclough, Brandon Flowers, Maurice Leggett, Jon McGraw, DaJuan Morgan, Jarrad Page, Donald Washington Specialists (3): Dustin Colquitt, Thomas Gafford, Ryan Succop
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kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8697996	At least i have the Lakers!!!!! I have nothing else to say about this roster. haha Last few years i been looking forward to basketball more then football. Not even with the 2000-2003 Lakers did i look forward to them more then the Chiefs.
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09-06-2009, 01:31 AM	#36
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Dude...Pollard cut? Hahahaha... ROR...wow, shows a thing or two about your football knowledge... (although, I am amazed...couldn't he have AT LEAST been a badass special teams guy?)
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	hahaha...larry could rush for A YARD this year...and...you...owned! ahhahahahahahaha wow I hate to see him go...I thought he could at least be a special teams ace...but ahahaha...it made you look like a dick ****, that's for sure!
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