NFL Draft McClain...Yes or No? - Page 3

talastan · 01-08-2010, 10:58 AM

I know the draftubators will be all over this w/ the "You don't draft a MLB in the top five!" argument. But after last night's preformance, as well as a very successful College season, would you take McClain with our pick at #5? Personally if Berry is off the board, I'd jump on the guy. He's not only a gifted athlete but a very intellectual player.

**tyler360** · 01-08-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

In no particular order:

Suh, Claussen, Berry, McCoy/Okung.

If that happens I am on the Spiller bandwagon all the way. With pioli I know it will never happen in a million times though.

Dayze · 01-08-2010, 12:06 PM

Absolutely. This team is so devoid of talent on the defensive side of the ball, the Chiefs almost ('almost') can't go wrong with Berry, Mays, or McClain.

I'd rather go for Berry first; but if he's not there and we can't trade down....I can't say I'd be anooyed witht he pick. it would be a reach, but only if the pick doesn't pan out. if we reach on McClain or Mays and they turn out to be studs, no one here is going to give a F we took them at 5, instead of at 7 or 8 etc.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-08-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

In no particular order:

Suh, Claussen, Berry, McCoy/Okung.

Then you can take Mays. He's more than worth it.

Look at it this way:

Who gives you a better team: Taylor Mays and Micah Johnson in Round 3/4 or Rolando McClain and Darryl Stuckey?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-08-2010, 12:07 PM

My problem with drafting any ILB that high is that they are the RBs of the defense. It's so easy to find solid contributors in later rounds, and I just don't see McClain as a game changer.

Jerod Mayo, for all his hype, isn't a game changer either.

ToxSocks · 01-08-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig

We reached for Tyson Jackson because he is what we wanted.

I guess you missed the other half of my post, and almost every post i write, saying that we need a skill position player, not another lineman.

Tyson Jackson is a player that Chiefs felt that they needed. Hopefully, they don't think they need another LT.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-08-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Then you can take Mays. He's more than worth it.

Look at it this way:

Who gives you a better team: Taylor Mays and Micah Johnson in Round 3/4 or Rolando McClain and Darryl Stuckey?

Oh, I agree, just asking who's not a reach at that spot.

Personally, I think Mays is a slight reach there.

But like last year, I'd gladly "reach" a few spots for an elite talent, instead of reaching for marginal talent.

Chief Faithful · 01-08-2010, 12:09 PM

Berry might be there at 5th and would be the biggest reason a team would trade up to the 5th spot. If the Chiefs drop down, pick up McClain and another player late first or early second I would be pleased.

**DeezNutz** · 01-08-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

Berry by be there at 5th and would be the biggest reason a team would trade up to the 5th spot. If they could drop down, pick up McClain and another player late first or early second I would be pleased.

If we trade back NOT to take Berry, I'm going to break my ****ing TV.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-08-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Oh, I agree, just asking who's not a reach at that spot.

Personally, I think Mays is a slight reach there.

But like last year, I'd gladly "reach" a few spots for an elite talent, instead of reaching for marginal talent.

It saddens me that we were expecting Muhammad Ali as our GM and we got "Hurricane" Peter McNeeley.

**The Franchise** · 01-08-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If we trade back NOT to take Berry, I'm going to break my ****ing TV.

This.

I'm tired of this organization passing up on elite ****ing talent so that can draft a complete waste of talent.

DumbHillbillies · 01-08-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Which is why people are pissed about the Tyson Jackson pick.

If you have to reach, fine.

But get a ****ing playmaker in the process.

That pick was a straight up need pick. We needed someone to man the 3-4 DE position and we didn't have one on the roster. Now could they have filled that position in free agency I don't know. I don't know if there was a guy out there last year on the market.

**The Franchise** · 01-08-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DumbHillbillies

That pick was a straight up need pick. We needed someone to man the 3-4 DE position and we didn't have one on the roster. Now could they have filled that position in free agency I don't know. I don't know if there was a guy out there last year on the market.

Igor Olshansky and Chris Canty.

Plus....we drafted Magee in the 3rd round.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-08-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DumbHillbillies

That pick was a straight up need pick. We needed someone to man the 3-4 DE position and we didn't have one on the roster. Now could they have filled that position in free agency I don't know. I don't know if there was a guy out there last year on the market.

There were two: Canty and Olshansky, both of whom were cheaper than Jackson.

Of course, we could have just drafted Magee in the 3rd and called it a ****ing day, but Pioli has to follow the blueprint down to the ****ing coffee stains and dog ears.

Spicy McHaggis · 01-08-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We're in the same boat we were last year.

If Berry's gone, there's no one worthy of a 5th overall pick, other than Claussen, who becomes this year's Mark Sanchez. (at least regarding the should we take him and sit him for a year debate)

Pioli won't admit his mistake this early, so Claussen's likely out.

If Berry is gone, who's worth it at 5?

Spiller's playmaking ability is worth the 5th pick, but his positional value is shitty.

Haden is going to be a solid CB at the next level, but if you're taking him 5th overall, he has to be a shutdown corner, and he's not.

Dez Bryant? Please.

Leaves you with two options:

Taylor Mays and Rolando McCalin.

Both would be great additions to this defense, and neither are worth a Top 5 pick, IMO.

Bottom line, if Berry's off the board, we're reaching for someone, let's just hope it's a solid reach, and not a Tyson Jackson-esque reach.

Very nice post, OTW. The general population of Chiefs fans better desensitize themselves to hearing the words "reach" and the phrase "not worth the spot" because it looks to me like it's going to break down this way.

This is where Pioli needs to shine and what he's being paid for. Reach if you must Mr. Pioli, but reach well.

Blick · 01-08-2010, 12:17 PM

I might take McClain. He's a good reach if Berry's gone.

However, you can find good inside LB's in a 3-4 in the later rounds just like offensive linemen.

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Blick Veteran Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South KC Casino cash: $10004900	I might take McClain. He's a good reach if Berry's gone. However, you can find good inside LB's in a 3-4 in the later rounds just like offensive linemen.
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