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Old 01-11-2010, 09:14 PM  
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Huge Kudos to Pioli and Haley
They wasted no time in getting who they wanted. This is a welcome change from the timing of last year's regime change. Hopefully, this a harbinger of more good things to come.
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:01 PM   #31
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I doubt Charlie and Romeo were cheap.
Pure speculation on your part.

Weis could work for free considering what's he being paid by Notre Dame.

Crennel is also receiving a huge check from Cleveland.
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:02 PM   #32
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The good thing about Pioli and Haley is they are friends with and are bringing in good coaches unlike Carl and Co.
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:06 PM   #34
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Pure speculation on your part.

Weis could work for free considering what's he being paid by Notre Dame.

Crennel is also receiving a huge check from Cleveland.
Actually there was a bunch of discussion on this subject on 610 the other day and the general belief is, like in most jobs, they are going to want paid fair value which is pretty high for coordinators considered some of the best at what they do.

Even if you had a ton of money your not going to go work your ass off for peanuts when the market is willing to pay you your worth.
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:06 PM   #35
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:16 PM   #36
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The good thing about Pioli and Haley is they are friends with and are bringing in good coaches unlike Carl and Co.
Greg Robinson looked like a great hire when he had two Lombardis next on his resume.

Giunta was DC of a Super Bowl defense too. And he won another SB as a coach after he left here.

Art Shell was once voted coach of the year.
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Yup
I'd say it's about even or in favor of the Chiefs being more like the Patriots.

Out of 16 coaches, only four came with Whisenthunt from Pittsburgh and none were exactly crucial. The Chiefs will have nearly that number on staff (Weis, Crennel, Ward, and Carthon), all in coordinator or above positions (Asst. Head Coach for Carthon).

The Chiefs have six players from New England (seven if you count Justin Rogers on IR) and the Cards have six former Steelers.
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Actually there was a bunch of discussion on this subject on 610 the other day and the general belief is, like in most jobs, they are going to want paid fair value which is pretty high for coordinators considered some of the best at what they do.

Even if you had a ton of money your not going to go work your ass off for peanuts when the market is willing to pay you your worth.
That does not support your argument that they didn't "come cheap".

Until we know the numbers, it's speculation. And even then, paying fair market value does not make Clark Hunt any less "cheap", which was your original supposition regarding that certain "crowd".
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Actually there was a bunch of discussion on this subject on 610 the other day and the general belief is, like in most jobs, they are going to want paid fair value which is pretty high for coordinators considered some of the best at what they do.

Even if you had a ton of money your not going to go work your ass off for peanuts when the market is willing to pay you your worth.
Very true. There were many opportunities out there for both Weis and Crennel. And these men know that. Which makes the quick hirings that much more impressive. Again:

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Pure speculation on your part.

Weis could work for free considering what's he being paid by Notre Dame.

Crennel is also receiving a huge check from Cleveland.
I bet his deal is about 110% of whatever NY offered.

I may be wrong, but I think Crennel only had one year left when he was fired by CCleveland so I dont think they are still sending him checks. I wonder how big he is after hip surgery and already being a big guy.

Overall, I am very happy with our hirings so far.

Going from No OC, No QB coach and a crappy DC, to two very good coordinators and added value of a great qb coach built right into our OC and one has to wonder how some here can still try to discredit the hires.

I think we are in the right direction with these guys.
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I bet his deal is about 110% of whatever NY offered.
JFC.

MORE speculation.
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I'd just like to through out that Weis and Crennel coached with HALEY before they went to the Patriots.
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JFC.

MORE speculation.
JFC

if all posts on this BB that were speculation were deleted, there would be 5 posts per day.

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Old 01-11-2010, 10:37 PM   #44
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At this point I wouldn't be giving them credit for hiring their buddies.

Two years from now this could stink like Gunther redux.
Sure. And there's a large contingency on the board that thinks that's exactly what's going to happen.

Fair enough. But for what Scott Pioli and Todd Haley are trying to do, there wasn't any better choices out there. They got the cream of the crop for their scheme. For that, I give them props.
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I'd say it's about even or in favor of the Chiefs being more like the Patriots.

Out of 16 coaches, only four came with Whisenthunt from Pittsburgh and none were exactly crucial. The Chiefs will have nearly that number on staff (Weis, Crennel, Ward, and Carthon), all in coordinator or above positions (Asst. Head Coach for Carthon).

The Chiefs have six players from New England (seven if you count Justin Rogers on IR) and the Cards have six former Steelers.
It's closer to 25 if you look at ones with ties to the tree.

Pats alone:

Cassel
O'Callaghan
Guitierrez
Mays
Vrabel
Copper
Rodgers
Daniels
Herron
Richardson

10 Pats, not 7.
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