Misc Child's Play at JFK Has Adults Fuming Mad - Page 3

**Donger** · 03-03-2010, 04:46 PM

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...-86174177.html

The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating why a child was allowed to direct air traffic at John F. Kennedy airport, one of the busiest airports in the country.

The FAA says a controller brought the child to work on February 17th and allowed him to talk to pilots.

"Pending the outcome of our investigation, the employees involved in this incident are not controlling air traffic," the FAA said in a statement. "This behavior is not acceptable and does not demonstrate the kind of professionalism expected from all FAA employees." The agency declined to comment beyond the statement.

Recordings from mid-February — during a weeklong winter break for many New York schoolchildren — were posted last month on a Web site for air traffic control-listening aficionados.

Updated 12:26 PM EST, Wed, Mar 3, 2010

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The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating why a child was allowed to direct air traffic at John F. Kennedy airport, one of the busiest airports in the country.

The FAA says a controller brought the child to work on February 17th and allowed him to talk to pilots.

"Pending the outcome of our investigation, the employees involved in this incident are not controlling air traffic," the FAA said in a statement. "This behavior is not acceptable and does not demonstrate the kind of professionalism expected from all FAA employees." The agency declined to comment beyond the statement.

Recordings from mid-February — during a weeklong winter break for many New York schoolchildren — were posted last month on a Web site for air traffic control-listening aficionados.

In audio recordings captured by www.liveatc.net, the young kid could be heard clearing planes for take off and landing. At one point the child even has fun with an Air Mexico flight, saying, "Adios." (listen to the entire exchange above or here)

The adult controller accompanying the child, and the controller's supervisor have both been suspended while authorities investigate. Neither employee has been identified and the child's age has not been revealed.

Below is a transcript of an excerpt of the audio recordings as the child talks to different pilots:

Child: "171 cleared for take off."

Pilot: "Clear for take off JetBlue 171"

Child: "Let's see your Air Mexico 403 Kennedy, runway through left position and hold."

Pilot: "Going to hold Air Mexico 403."

Unknown: "This is what you get guys when the kids are out of school."

Unknown: "Wish I could bring my kid to work."

Child: "JetBlue 171 contact departure."

Unknown: "Over to departure JetBlue 171, awesome job."

Child: "03 clear for take off."

Early this morning, Dough Church with the Air Traffic Controllers' National Union released a statement saying, "We do not condone this type of behavior in any way. It is not indicative of the highest professional standards that controllers set for themselves and exceed each and every day in the advancement of aviation safety."

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 03-03-2010, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCbroncoHATER

"Let's see your Air Mexico 403 Kennedy, runway through left position and hold."

As long as the aircraft knew what he meant then I am cool with it.

There was no danger folks .... nothing to see here.

Hey! We agree.

big nasty kcnut · 03-03-2010, 09:37 PM

What your vector victor.

Crush · 03-03-2010, 09:39 PM

Why? The original Child's Play was an entertaining horror film.

**Easy 6** · 03-03-2010, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer

He wasn't actually controlling anything. He was being fed extremely basic lines and simply said them. Anything more complicated than that was still handled by the dad.

He shouldn't have done it for the sake of keeping his job, but I struggle to see anything legitimately wrong or dangerous about this.

This.

I think the initial furor will die out & these guys keep their jobs.

DJ's left nut · 03-03-2010, 09:47 PM

What the kid actually did wasn't dangerous, IMO.

However, Rainman makes an excellent point - kids are ****ing reeruned.

This one didn't do anything exceedingly stupid, but that's ultimately just defying the odds. I'm fairly certain that I'd have said something dumb if given the opportunity.

It wouldn't have taken much for the entire situation to have gotten ugly had that kid just popped off the first thought that went streaking through his head. Children are not known for their impulse control.

In the end, it's not what the kid did that bothered me, but what he could have done given the position he was put in.

irishjayhawk · 03-03-2010, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer

You really think letting the kid say "prepare for takeoff" a coupe of times is going to end up with that? Give me a ****ing break.

He wasn't actually controlling anything. He was being fed extremely basic lines and simply said them. Anything more complicated than that was still handled by the dad.

He shouldn't have done it for the sake of keeping his job, but I struggle to see anything legitimately wrong or dangerous about this.

Exactly.

It's just a product of America being America. No gun sound effects in songs...

dtebbe · 03-03-2010, 10:26 PM

LOL.. my son actually got to pilot a real locomotive on a real local run on one sunny day. His papa could probably have gotten fired for arranging it, but he'll never forget that day. Got to blow the whistle, run the throttles, and even press the "keep alive" button.

He had the best papa ever.. clearly

DT

Frazod · 03-03-2010, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtebbe

LOL.. my son actually got to pilot a real locomotive on a real local run on one sunny day. His papa could probably have gotten fired for arranging it, but he'll never forget that day. Got to blow the whistle, run the throttles, and even press the "keep alive" button.

He had the best papa ever.. clearly

DT

BNSF greased a guy up here a couple of years ago for doing this.

03-03-2010, 04:46 PM
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-730901	What the kid actually did wasn't dangerous, IMO. However, Rainman makes an excellent point - kids are ***ing reeruned. This one didn't do anything exceedingly stupid, but that's ultimately just defying the odds. I'm fairly certain that I'd have said something dumb if given the opportunity. It wouldn't have taken much for the entire situation to have gotten ugly had that kid just popped off the first thought that went streaking through his head. Children are not known for their impulse control. In the end, it's not what the kid did that bothered me, but what he could have done* given the position he was put in. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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dtebbe 3M TA3 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: SoFlo Casino cash: $9993039	LOL.. my son actually got to pilot a real locomotive on a real local run on one sunny day. His papa could probably have gotten fired for arranging it, but he'll never forget that day. Got to blow the whistle, run the throttles, and even press the "keep alive" button. He had the best papa ever.. clearly DT
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