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Old 03-09-2010, 06:32 PM  
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Jimmy Clausen Scouting Report

Height: 6-2⅝ | Weight: 222 | 40-Time: 4.75

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Strengths:
Good height and bulk --- Arm strength is more than adequate and can make all of the necessary throws --- Great throwing mechanics with a quick delivery --- Super accurate passer with terrific touch, timing and anticipation --- Very smart with an excellent football IQ --- Knows how to operate under center, recognize blitzes, read coverages and go through progressions --- Takes care of the ball --- Able to buy time in the pocket with his feet --- Can throw on the run --- Tough and will play through pain and injuries --- Is confident with a fiery field presence and ice water in his veins --- Hard worker --- Media savvy and has proven that he can handle the spotlight --- Experienced --- Superb bloodlines.

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Borderline cocky and entitled with a personality that rubs some people the wrong way --- Not a great athlete --- Can be overly cautious and too quick to check down, throw the ball away or take a sack --- Has to windup to really zip the ball --- Floats the deep ball at times --- Might not have a ton of upside --- Is still maturing --- Durability is a concern.

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Was a three-year starter for the Fighting Irish --- Brothers Casey and Rick both played quarterback at Tennessee --- Started getting national media attention in middle school and was labeled the "LeBron James of College Football" --- Was a celebrated recruit who won just about every prep award and honor imaginable --- Began working with highly-regarded quarterback guru Steve Clarkson in the 8th grade then spent three seasons under the tutelage of offensive mastermind Charlie Weis in college --- Underwent surgery to repair a minor injury to the elbow on his throwing arm in 2007 --- Played through a painful toe injury in 2009 that eventually required surgery to repair a couple of torn ligaments following the season --- Voted a captain by his teammates in 2009 --- One of the most prolific passers in Notre Dame history despite only playing three seasons --- Made major strides in the leadership department as a junior, showing a much better on-field demeanor and taking his team on a number of impressive game-winning fourth quarter drives --- Extensive experience running a pro style system, a factor which can't be underestimated in this day and age of the spread offense --- Was essentially groomed to be an NFL quarterback from a very young age and has somehow managed to live up to sky-high expectations in the face of intense scrutiny --- The worry is that some of the Jay Cutler-esque qualities of his personality could begin to take their toll in the locker room if he lands in a bad situation or with a dysfunctional franchise --- A polished signal caller with an outstanding pedigree and all of the tools to be a top-notch starter at the next level.
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:17 AM   #31
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The spread alone will make it impossible for Bradford to do anything next year.
Impossible is WAY too strong... unlikely is a better guess. ... and this is coming from a guy who never really thought Bradford was that good.

I just never felt that Bradford was the main reason OK won games... after he went down and they floundered... I may have been too harsh on him... but I'm STILL not a huge fan. I'd take Clausen over him BUT I also don't want Clausen... too many (probably) better QBs next year.

I want D and a solid WR if one falls to us at value... and maybe a mid-late round OT... otherwise, stick with D
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:26 AM   #32
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He's got no mobility and has to wind up to throw a ball more than 20 yards. Not even remotely close to being what Shanahan wants from a quarterback.

However, Pestilence says he's already been fitted for his bust in Canton, so I'll go with his assessment. I'm sure he's looking at Clausen's pro potential objectively. Sure, Clausen really only had one good season and tossed 17 picks his sophomore year alone, is on the small side, with short arms and small hands and comes off as an entitled douche that looks to blame others before himself. But we want guys like that on our team.
Yep....that's exactly what I said....you ****ing douche.

Go back to basing your opinion of a player off of stats and YouTube clips.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:49 PM   #33
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are you drunk?
No, he's just a useless dumbass.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:05 PM   #34
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[QUOTE=kcrockaholic4life;6591777]Well we see guys like Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez, or Big Ben step in and be a decent QB at an early stage of their career I don't think Clausen is going to be close to that. That's not taking away what he can be in his prime, but I can just picture all the Clausen lovers worried to death, that he is a bust after having a terrible rookie season if he starts. While the anti-Clausen people are saying "I told you so."



What????? How can you compare Mark Sanchez's rookie numbers with that of Matt Ryan and Bens?????? You watch football yes?
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:06 PM   #35
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The spread alone will make it impossible for Bradford to do anything next year.
My offer still stands bro if you are so sure. Lifetime ban for me vs 1 year for you.

"The Sure Fire Bust" Sam Bradford vs "El 2nd Cumo!" Jesus' Sanchez!

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Old 03-10-2010, 04:34 PM   #36
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My offer still stands bro if you are so sure. Lifetime ban for me vs 1 year for you.

"The Sure Fire Bust" Sam Bradford vs "El 2nd Cumo!" Jesus' Sanchez!
these kind of bets are ****ing reeruned

If you want to make a bet, make it a 1 line sig bet. Make the loser wear that blackeye around the Planet...this ban me bs is pussy
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:41 PM   #37
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in NDs 6 losses this year, the offense put up

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I would love to see how he would be perceived if his defense was a decent unit...
Holy shit!! That's ****ing Arena football right there!
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:48 PM   #38
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these kind of bets are ****ing reeruned

If you want to make a bet, make it a 1 line sig bet. Make the loser wear that blackeye around the Planet...this ban me bs is pussy
I'd like to see it get taken to a higher level. Cut off the tip of a finger, burn a hole in your arm with a lit cigar or something like that. Let's make it a little more meaningful in terms of putting your money where your mouth is, and nothing says "I'm sure of it" like a little physical disfigurement riding on your words.

Maybe just shaving your eyebrows would suffice, but I think the pain thing goes a long way in closing up the vast expanse of middle ground on the internet.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:58 PM   #40
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:01 PM   #41
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What????? How can you compare Mark Sanchez's rookie numbers with that of Matt Ryan and Bens?????? You watch football yes?
Ben didn't have great rookie numbers either. But he didn't turn the ball over, and took his team very far for a rookie QB. The same thing happened with Sanchez. I don't think I said anything about Sanchez having great numbers. He did a solid job, and did a fantastic job once he got to the playoffs. If you look in-depth at the Sanchez INT's they occured when the Jets where losing and he was flying the ball around trying to make a comeback. My main point is that Clausen is going to have a steep learning curve in the NFL. But, once he masters it, he will have his name mentioned in the same sentence as Ben, Rodgers, and Rivers.
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:52 PM   #42
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these kind of bets are ****ing reeruned

If you want to make a bet, make it a 1 line sig bet. Make the loser wear that blackeye around the Planet...this ban me bs is pussy
Nah, that's too easy.
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Old 03-10-2010, 06:54 PM   #43
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Ben didn't have great rookie numbers either. But he didn't turn the ball over, and took his team very far for a rookie QB. The same thing happened with Sanchez. I don't think I said anything about Sanchez having great numbers. He did a solid job, and did a fantastic job once he got to the playoffs. If you look in-depth at the Sanchez INT's they occured when the Jets where losing and he was flying the ball around trying to make a comeback. My main point is that Clausen is going to have a steep learning curve in the NFL. But, once he masters it, he will have his name mentioned in the same sentence as Ben, Rodgers, and Rivers.
So you are saying when the team needed Sanchez to step up an win a game he threw INT's? Which is correct, because they only won with defense and a running game and when behind couldn't count on him to carry the load.

Again.... WHATTTTTTTTT??????? Ben set the NFL record for a rookie QB rating of 98.1.... Matt Ryan 87.7 as a rookie... Joe Flacco 80.3........ Mark Sanchez..... 63.0



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Old 03-10-2010, 07:02 PM   #44
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So you are saying when the team needed Sanchez to step up an win a game he threw INT's? Which is correct, because they only won with defense and a running game and when behind couldn't count on him to carry the load.

Again.... WHATTTTTTTTT??????? Ben set the NFL record for a rookie QB rating of 98.1.... Matt Ryan 87.7 as a rookie... Joe Flacco 80.3........ Mark Sanchez..... 63.0



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You can say what you want. He helped take the Jets to the AFC Championship game. You're missing my main point though. You've made a big deal about something so small out of my main point.
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Old 03-10-2010, 07:24 PM   #45
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You can say what you want. He helped take the Jets to the AFC Championship game. You're missing my main point though. You've made a big deal about something so small out of my main point.

He helped????? They had the #1 rated defense and #1 rated run game and if it wasn't for the Colts taking the last few weeks off they wouldn't have even made the playoffs! That's not helping, that hindering a team.

Sorry to poke at you, but I can't believe some people fall for the Hamas/Mecca propaganda BS about how we missed out on a franchise QB because he happened to get drafted by a good team and he would have been the #1 pick this year because Jackie Legg over at NFL forums.com said so. They need to prove themselves right based on promoting him last year. Based on his performance last year, if you through him back into the pool of players for this years draft he would be the 3rd QB off the board. Tim Tebow can put up a freaking 63 QB rating on that loaded ass team this year.
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