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Old 11-15-2010, 10:16 PM   #1
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They're about to enter the scenario several of us discussed when they were using top 5 picks and not taking a QB..now the team has enough talent to compete and win a number of games. This makes us to good to pick high for elite QB prospects yet not good enough to win anything...the position of limbo.
Well, it sounds like you want a quarterback.

And yeah I feel the same way too, but I have a feeling they will stick with Cassel. If thats the case, then Im hoping they just draft well and build the team as a whole.

Seriously, what else could they really do? If they could have another draft like last year, I'd be really pleased. They could improve as many positions possible. I don't care. i just want to see a solid overall draft again, and I'd like to see them for a change draft a player that has the ability to uplift the spirit of the team. Game changing players, impact players, catalysts.. We have none of those on this team.

*And to find one of those guys it doesn't have to always be top 5 as history would suggest or indicate. Just find those type of players somewhere in the draft. Please. Im so sick of this team coming out flat. Especially on the road. There is no excuse for that bullsh*t. It disgusting to see that as a fan.
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:02 PM   #2
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The only way this team is getting a premier weapon for Cassel is if they tank hard and pick 15 or better.
dont be so sure.

This years draft should feature at least 4 first round talents at WR and WRs tend to drop a bit more than other positions.

I could see Baldwin dropping to where we pick and at this point, I think he has a really good chance at being our top pick
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:04 PM   #3
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dont be so sure.

This years draft should feature at least 4 first round talents at WR and WRs tend to drop a bit more than other positions.

I could see Baldwin dropping to where we pick and at this point, I think he has a really good chance at being our top pick

If he's a 4.4 40 guy he's going before 15, and he claims he's a 4.3 guy and if he's that he has a chance to be a top 8 guy.
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Old 11-16-2010, 01:07 AM   #4
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I could see Baldwin dropping to where we pick and at this point, I think he has a really good chance at being our top pick
In that case I hope it's Alec. He's the best of them.
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:14 PM   #5
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The only way this team is getting a premier weapon for Cassel is if they tank hard and pick 15 or better.
Dude, you KNOW that isn't true... there will be PLENTY of premier weapons past the top 15 picks... they just might not be the typical "can't miss" highly touted prospects... We will need to get lucky and scout VERY well... but it is possible.

What WRs do you have going in the top 15? Baldwin? AJ Green? Who else? Do you really think Floyd and Jones will both go top 15? Not to mention the countless guys who are still under the radar right now...
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:17 PM   #6
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Dude, you KNOW that isn't true... there will be PLENTY of premier weapons past the top 15 picks... they just might not be the typical "can't miss" highly touted prospects... We will need to get lucky and scout VERY well... but it is possible.

What WRs do you have going in the top 15? Baldwin? AJ Green? Who else? Do you really think Floyd and Jones will both go top 15? Not to mention the countless guys who are still under the radar right now...
I wouldnt be shocked at all if Green is the only WR to be top 15.
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Dude, you KNOW that isn't true... there will be PLENTY of premier weapons past the top 15 picks... they just might not be the typical "can't miss" highly touted prospects... We will need to get lucky and scout VERY well... but it is possible.

What WRs do you have going in the top 15? Baldwin? AJ Green? Who else? Do you really think Floyd and Jones will both go top 15? Not to mention the countless guys who are still under the radar right now...
As of today I think Green's a top 5 pick, Baldwins a top 10 guy and Jones will go somewhere in the 10-15 range. Floyd I think could be anywhere from mid 1st to the 2nd but I don't think he's nearly on the level the other 3 are.
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:33 PM   #8
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As of today I think Green's a top 5 pick, Baldwins a top 10 guy and Jones will go somewhere in the 10-15 range. Floyd I think could be anywhere from mid 1st to the 2nd but I don't think he's nearly on the level the other 3 are.
I seriously doubt this happens AT ALL... I know YOU value WR... but most NFL teams do not (well at least not as much as you)...

Past drafts and 1st round position of WRs taken
2010 - 22,24
2009 - 7,10,19,22,29,30
2008 - none
2007 - 2,9,23,27,30,32
2006 - 25
2005 - 3,7,10,21,22,27

You have to go back to 2005 to find a draft with 3 WRs in the top 15

I expect there to be 3 or 4 great WRs that we know about and 2 of them going in the top 15...

That said... I'd take an elite NT over WR.. but I highly doubt one of those slips out of the top 15...

I also think our OL is a fraud and needs a ton of work... not worth a 1st rounder but we better do some heavy investing in later rounds.
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:36 PM   #9
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Past drafts and 1st round position of WRs taken
2010 - 22,24
2009 - 7,10,19,22,29,30
2008 - none
2007 - 2,9,23,27,30,32
2006 - 25
2005 - 3,7,10,21,22,27

You have to go back to 2005 to find a draft with 3 WRs in the top 15
..btw, IF it does happen.. this would be the year... look at the CRAZY WR heavy pattern that occurs every OTHER year...
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They're not, and for 2 years they've done things to pad his stats so it's blatantly obvious he's coming back.
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They're not, and for 2 years they've done things to pad his stats so it's blatantly obvious he's coming back.
Maybe they'll pad his stats enough to where a team would rather develop Cassel than use their #1 and we could trade him to move up in the draft.
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They're not, and for 2 years they've done things to pad his stats so it's blatantly obvious he's coming back.
I am pretty convinced that the front office isn't that stubborn to admit they made a huge mistake with Cassel. I really hope that I'm right.
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Even if there was a premier qb on the board, I dont see them taking him if there was a premier weapon there.

16 TD 4 INT

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Even if there was a premier qb on the board, I dont see them taking him if there was a premier weapon there.

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Cassel is a perfect example of how you can take a scheme and use it to shield and pad a players stats to make it look like he had a good year when in reality he didn't.
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You know what I think the real problem is with the Chiefs? They're not mentally tough enough.
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