What if Charles really did get more carries? Wicket stat.

[Hammock Parties]

He could break off 2K in our system, that's what.

• Jamaal Charles(notes)

The Kansas City Chiefs running back had 14 touches for 153 total yards and a touchdown, and helped ease the load for the returning Matt Cassel(notes). His 80-yard run late in the fourth quarter – on the Chiefs’ first snap after the Rams pulled within 20-13 – locked the game up. Here’s a wicked stat: Charles has 1,961 rushing yards in his last 17 games. And he did that on only 297 carries. That’s a staggering average of 6.6 yards per carry.

[LaChapelle]

He has been showing frustration as of late after the play is over
win or lose
He had been just popping up and moving on -something's amiss

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I honestly remember Bowe dropping 5 passes this year...tops

You must not handle your liquor as well as I do...

[Hootie]

and I watch a ton of football and a ton of RedZone and you see all of the star receivers drop passes all of the time...

T.O. (one of the greatest ever) has been dropping passes his entire career...

I've seen Miles Austin drop some of the easiest balls thrown this year...

and ChiefsPlanet darling receiver Santonio Holmes had a perfectly thrown ball hit him in the helmet in the end zone two weeks ago...a catch a 9 year old could have made 10 times out of 10...

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

I know profootballfocus was thrown around a lot.

But you gotta pay for that shit now....But they were very accurate. I've never seen that link before, but it is wrong.

Nope.

This Washington Post link was used time and time again. It was used by the "he has a ton of drops" crowd, and it was used by the "13 drops is less than 1 a game - a lot of great WR's are on that list" crowd. Everyone used it.

It was good enough last year, now some of you are claiming it's inaccurate?

Get the **** outta here.

Dude's improved by leaps and bounds.

[B_Ambuehl]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

just cramps

now go find that link for us

Is that what they said? It's bullshit. You don't treat cramps with ice. He grabbed his hamstring on that play.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

and I watch a ton of football and a ton of RedZone and you see all of the star receivers drop passes all of the time...

T.O. (one of the greatest ever) has been dropping passes his entire career...

I've seen Miles Austin drop some of the easiest balls thrown this year...

and ChiefsPlanet darling receiver Santonio Holmes had a perfectly thrown ball hit him in the helmet in the end zone two weeks ago...a catch a 9 year old could have made 10 times out of 10...

Exactly.

Some of us have been making this argument for years.

There are always elite WR's at or near the top of that list. Comes with the territory.

[Hootie]

I saw Larry Fitz drop a pivotal TD pass 3 weeks ago, too...

saw Jerry Rice drop the easiest TD pass ever against KC when he was with Oakland back in the day as well...

drops happen...

Bowe has been stellar this year...outside of the Indianapolis game.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Is that what they said? It's bullshit. You don't treat cramps with ice. He grabbed his hamstring on that play.

well that's what they said

but hey...i'm sure you can find a quote from norv about it

[JTagg7754]

Originally Posted by DrRyan

I have to question the validity of this list. This list claims that Stevie Johnson has only dropped 8 passes all year? He dropped 5 passes in the one game that he dropped the game winner in the endzone in overtime.

Who's to determine what's a "drop" and what isn't?? There is no solid definition of the term ergo stats like this are generally useless if you are to take them so literally.

It's like when Bey was said to be on the highest portion of the "targets" list. Who's to tell me what a "target" is?? If Campbell is taking his time w/ his reads, maybe sits down for a cup of coffee if he has time, then sees nothing b/c he's as blind as a bat when throwing downfield, then throws one 10 feet over the head of Bey who was the closest WR to the ball, does that count as a "target" for Bey?

Bowe has dropped quite a few passes this season and I haven't even watch 1/2 of your games.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Looked like he cramped up to me.

Same as when he went down earlier in the game. They were pulling his foot back from the toes, which indicates cramps.

I never saw him grab his hamstring. Could have missed it, though. Looked like a calf cramp the first time.

Anyway, The Star thinks it was cramps. Dude wanted to go back in, and was jogging off the field after the game.

I highly doubt it's anything more than cramps.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/12/19...-key-time.html

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Looked like he cramped up to me.

Same as when he went down earlier in the game. They were pulling his foot back from the toes, which indicates cramps.

I never saw him grab his hamstring. Could have missed it, though. Looked like a calf cramp the first time.

Anyway, The Star thinks it was cramps. Dude wanted to go back in, and was jogging off the field after the game.

I highly doubt it's anything more than cramps.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/12/19...-key-time.html

This is good.

[Hootie]

yeah

Pioli has a source at Washington Post keeping Bowe off of that list!

yes!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

yeah

Pioli has a source at Washington Post keeping Bowe off of that list!

yes!

[B_Ambuehl]

Watch the long run again and you'll see him grab his hamstring as he goes down. Then he was getting iced on the sideline. The ice would tend to dispell the claim of cramps. We'll see.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I saw Larry Fitz drop a pivotal TD pass 3 weeks ago, too...

saw Jerry Rice drop the easiest TD pass ever against KC when he was with Oakland back in the day as well...

drops happen...

Bowe has been stellar this year...outside of the Indianapolis game.

TO is gonna drop his share of passes. As are star receivers.

The issue is that Bowe does it at the worst possible times.

You can name probably less than a handful of drops Jerry Rice had throughout his career during times when they were desperately calling on him to make a play. He dropped one in Oakland that would have sealed the game, dropped a TD pass in Indy that may have swung the pendulum in Indy's favor, dropped one this week in a drive where it was clear they needed to buy some positive momentum for Cassel.

We talk a lot about wanting Cassel to be a gamer. We know Bowe can produce in big chunks. I've just seen very little in his career that leads me to believe he is even close to reliable when it matters most.