Football Is Belichik's ego out of control? - Page 3

JD10367 · 01-17-2011, 11:46 AM

His ego is out of control if you're referring to the stupid ****ing fake punt which cost them 7 points. They punt that ball and probably go into halftime 7-3, not down 14-3. That stupid coaching decision, and Brady playing average and throwing that pick, is what ultimately cost them the ballgame (as did the O-line once again deciding to suck at the worst point in the season a la the 2007 SB, and the defense's inability to stop the Jets when the Pats got it to 14-11).

But that was a brainfart, not an indication of an out-of-control ego. Belichick has done a great job for a decade now. They're always above .500 and challenging for the division title, and have made the playoffs more often than not. This season he took a team most figured for 8-10 wins at best, in a rebuilding year with the youngest defense in the league, two rookies at tight end, and two who-dats at running back (BJGE and Woodhead), and won 14 games, beating a shitload of playoff-bound and playoff-caliber teams. Did he shit his pants yesterday? Yes. Does it irritate the **** out of me that for two seasons in a row his team wasn't prepared for the playoffs? Yes. Does that mean his "ego is out of control"? Uh, no. He's shown that his way works, season in and season out.

KCrockaholic · 01-17-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

His ego is out of control if you're referring to the stupid ****ing fake punt which cost them 7 points. They punt that ball and probably go into halftime 7-3, not down 14-3. That stupid coaching decision, and Brady playing average and throwing that pick, is what ultimately cost them the ballgame (as did the O-line once again deciding to suck at the worst point in the season a la the 2007 SB, and the defense's inability to stop the Jets when the Pats got it to 14-11).

But that was a brainfart, not an indication of an out-of-control ego. Belichick has done a great job for a decade now. They're always above .500 and challenging for the division title, and have made the playoffs more often than not. This season he took a team most figured for 8-10 wins at best, in a rebuilding year with the youngest defense in the league, two rookies at tight end, and two who-dats at running back (BJGE and Woodhead), and won 14 games, beating a shitload of playoff-bound and playoff-caliber teams. Did he shit his pants yesterday? Yes. Does it irritate the **** out of me that for two seasons in a row his team wasn't prepared for the playoffs? Yes. Does that mean his "ego is out of control"? Uh, no. He's shown that his way works, season in and season out.

Guess what? Belichick didn't even call that fake punt.

**Dave Lane** · 01-17-2011, 02:48 PM

Just for the record if you decide to cut him loose, we'll take him. I like Haley a lot, but not that much.

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Originally Posted by JD10367

His ego is out of control if you're referring to the stupid ****ing fake punt which cost them 7 points. They punt that ball and probably go into halftime 7-3, not down 14-3. That stupid coaching decision, and Brady playing average and throwing that pick, is what ultimately cost them the ballgame (as did the O-line once again deciding to suck at the worst point in the season a la the 2007 SB, and the defense's inability to stop the Jets when the Pats got it to 14-11).

But that was a brainfart, not an indication of an out-of-control ego. Belichick has done a great job for a decade now. They're always above .500 and challenging for the division title, and have made the playoffs more often than not. This season he took a team most figured for 8-10 wins at best, in a rebuilding year with the youngest defense in the league, two rookies at tight end, and two who-dats at running back (BJGE and Woodhead), and won 14 games, beating a shitload of playoff-bound and playoff-caliber teams. Did he shit his pants yesterday? Yes. Does it irritate the **** out of me that for two seasons in a row his team wasn't prepared for the playoffs? Yes. Does that mean his "ego is out of control"? Uh, no. He's shown that his way works, season in and season out.

suzzer99 · 01-17-2011, 11:48 AM

The fake punt would have worked if Chung keeps his eye on the ball and makes a pretty easy move on Smith. Then it would have been Beli-genius. And possibly a different ball-game.

sedated · 01-17-2011, 12:12 PM

this was essentially a rebuilding year for NE. they will be scary the next few years if they can rebuild that D with all their high draft picks coming up (what's the number, 6 picks in the top 70?)

suzzer99 · 01-17-2011, 12:45 PM

Monata?

Dante84 · 01-17-2011, 01:17 PM

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Monata?

Tony Monata.

keg in kc · 01-17-2011, 12:51 PM

Has Belichick's ego ever been in control?

**morphius** · 01-17-2011, 12:53 PM

We also must take in account that he can't hold onto good coordinators and is always having to adjust there. That has to take a toll on a team.

B_Ambuehl · 01-17-2011, 12:58 PM

The same argument could be made for the way Belichik deals with coordinators.

When was the last time he brought in an established coordinator or position coach to do anything?

When most teams need a coordinator they bring in someone from outside the organization that's already established. Belichik does ALL his hiring from within which gives off the vibe that he thinks he and his organization are better than everyone else.

Brock · 01-17-2011, 12:59 PM

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When most teams need a coordinator they bring in someone from outside the organization that's already established. Belichik does ALL his hiring from within which gives off the vibe that he thinks he and his organization are better than everyone else.

How many organizations in the NFL are better than the Patriots? 2, maybe, at most?

B_Ambuehl · 01-17-2011, 01:37 PM

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How many organizations in the NFL are better than the Patriots? 2, maybe, at most?

It's been 4 years since they won a playoff game. More than 2 teams have had better success in recent history. When the Pats were winning superbowls they were running their team much more like other teams do. All the Belichik way stuff hasn't paid off where it counts.

Brock · 01-17-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

It's been 4 years since they won a playoff game. More than 2 teams have had better success in recent history. When the Pats were winning superbowls they were running their team much more like other teams do. All the Belichik way stuff hasn't paid off where it counts.

What are those more than 2 teams that have had better success in recent history? The Steelers are probably a better overall organization. What other teams are a more consistent contender than the Patriots?

**Easy 6** · 01-17-2011, 07:46 PM

I've never been his biggest fan, but if his head was that swollen he'd have never been so cordial to Ryan after the game.

His team got whupped & he showed some class about it.

**alpha_omega** · 01-17-2011, 01:10 PM

He seemed pretty humble during the post-game interview.

01-17-2011, 11:46 AM	#1
JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	His ego is out of control if you're referring to the stupid **ing fake punt which cost them 7 points. They punt that ball and probably go into halftime 7-3, not down 14-3. That stupid coaching decision, and Brady playing average and throwing that pick, is what ultimately cost them the ballgame (as did the O-line once again deciding to suck at the worst point in the season a la the 2007 SB, and the defense's inability to stop the Jets when the Pats got it to 14-11). But that was a brainfart, not an indication of an out-of-control ego. Belichick has done a great job for a decade now. They're always above .500 and challenging for the division title, and have made the playoffs more often than not. This season he took a team most figured for 8-10 wins at best, in a rebuilding year with the youngest defense in the league, two rookies at tight end, and two who-dats at running back (BJGE and Woodhead), and won 14 games, beating a shitload of playoff-bound and playoff-caliber teams. Did he shit his pants yesterday? Yes. Does it irritate the ** out of me that for two seasons in a row his team wasn't prepared for the playoffs? Yes. Does that mean his "ego is out of control"? Uh, no. He's shown that his way works, season in and season out.
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B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9705405	The same argument could be made for the way Belichik deals with coordinators. When was the last time he brought in an established coordinator or position coach to do anything? When most teams need a coordinator they bring in someone from outside the organization that's already established. Belichik does ALL his hiring from within which gives off the vibe that he thinks he and his organization are better than everyone else. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $27775	I've never been his biggest fan, but if his head was that swollen he'd have never been so cordial to Ryan after the game. His team got whupped & he showed some class about it.
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alpha_omega Supporter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Liberty Casino cash: $-1580000	He seemed pretty humble during the post-game interview.
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