Keep your god damned phones in your ****ing pockets while you drive

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Bob Dole had a friend who was killed 2 summers ago by a woman who ADMITTED she blew the stop sign because she was texting.

She got a ticket for running a stop sign. All his friends got to go to a funeral.

My 79year old dad was T-boned by a kid that was dialing a phone and ran a red light. Luckily it was in town and ONLY totaled his truck.

Same thing, the kid admitted he was dialing. Like, no big deal, that's just the breaks.

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Texting or dialing a cell phone while driving is no different than driving drunk.

The one other bit that most people tend to forget is that merely talking on the phone, regardless of if it's hands free has similar impairment to driving drunk. For whatever reason talking to someone in the car does not have a similar impairment, but if you're talking on the phone at all you are taking an act that has an impairment level similar to drunk driving.

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

The one other bit that most people tend to forget is that merely talking on the phone, regardless of if it's hands free has similar impairment to driving drunk. For whatever reason talking to someone in the car does not have a similar impairment, but if you're talking on the phone at all you are taking an act that has an impairment level similar to drunk driving.

I'm not sure you can say that about all drivers but I know its true for me. I never answer my cell when I'm driving.

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

I'm not sure you can say that about all drivers but I know its true for me. I never answer my cell when I'm driving.

While no two drivers are the same, high quality academic studies have shown that across multiple test groups of drivers, talking on the phone has similar impairment to driving drunk, whether you are using hands free or not. Just like not every person who drinks and drives has the same impairment, not every one who talk on the phone and drives will have the same impairment. But it's generally not a good idea to even talk on the phone. The one advantage that talking on the phone has over driving drunk is that you can turn your phone off.....

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Texting or dialing a cell phone while driving is no different than driving drunk.

Absolutely. I wonder how many more people have to die from this bullshit before law enforcement starts treating it the same way.

[007]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Absolutely. I wonder how many more people have to die from this bullshit before law enforcement starts treating it the same way.

I'm sure we will start seeing the posts from people soon stating how it all depends on how well you multitask.

I don't give a crap how well anyone multitasks. Using the cell, putting on makeup, eating, reading, etc should be against the law while operating a moving vehicle.

[chasedude]

Originally Posted by Guru

I'm sure we will start seeing the posts from people soon stating how it all depends on how well you multitask.

I don't give a crap how well anyone multitasks. Using the cell, putting on makeup, eating, reading, etc should be against the law while operating a moving vehicle.

Yeah, we've gone over this stuff here ad nauseum. My point has already been expressed before so I wont get into my rant.

It is a shame though PR's friend is a direct result in phone/texting use while driving.

People make stupid decisions everyday, some more than most. It's too bad a life is taken while someone was stupid.

You can make all kinds of laws preventing things like this, but you can't fix stupidity.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Guru

I'm sure we will start seeing the posts from people soon stating how it all depends on how well you multitask.

I don't give a crap how well anyone multitasks. Using the cell, putting on makeup, eating, reading, etc should be against the law while operating a moving vehicle.

Texting while driving should be illegal. But talking on the phone? I mean, seriously, if I can smoke while driving or drink a pop while driving, why can't I talk while driving? It's not something I like to do, and I keep the conversations short, but it's not like I take my eyes off the road to look at my iPhone while I'm talking on it. Not my fault that there are people out there who shouldn't be allowed to walk and talk on a phone that have licenses. And I can guarantee you that a pleasant conversation with somebody on the phone is far less distracting than an unpleasant one with the wife if she's pissing me off.

As for motorcycles, it's been said several times here, anytime somebody rides one he's putting his life at risk, especially riding without a ****ing helmet, and bears a certain amount of responsibility for anything that happens on that basis alone. Best rider in the world can't account for some moron suddenly crossing a lane into him, and there is just no protection.

If this guy had been in a car, he'd be sore and talking to a claims adjuster. That's just the way it is.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by frazod

As for motorcycles, it's been said several times here, anytime somebody rides one he's putting his life at risk, especially riding without a ****ing helmet, and bears a certain amount of responsibility for anything that happens on that basis alone. Best rider in the world can't account for some moron suddenly crossing a lane into him, and there is just no protection.

If this guy had been in a car, he'd be sore and talking to a claims adjuster. That's just the way it is.

This is true. Yes, he is dead because of the actions initiated by others. But his decision to not wear a helmet might of changed the outcome of the idiot girls decision.

[007]

Originally Posted by frazod

Texting while driving should be illegal. But talking on the phone? I mean, seriously, if I can smoke while driving or drink a pop while driving, why can't I talk while driving? It's not something I like to do, and I keep the conversations short, but it's not like I take my eyes off the road to look at my iPhone while I'm talking on it. Not my fault that there are people out there who shouldn't be allowed to walk and talk on a phone that have licenses. And I can guarantee you that a pleasant conversation with somebody on the phone is far less distracting than an unpleasant one with the wife if she's pissing me off.

As for motorcycles, it's been said several times here, anytime somebody rides one he's putting his life at risk, especially riding without a ****ing helmet, and bears a certain amount of responsibility for anything that happens on that basis alone. Best rider in the world can't account for some moron suddenly crossing a lane into him, and there is just no protection.

If this guy had been in a car, he'd be sore and talking to a claims adjuster. That's just the way it is.

I have to disagree. The guy that T boned my van causing it to roll was simply talking on his phone. Not text, just talking. He was too distracted to see the stop sign and he put me and two of my children at risk because if his stupidity.

[wazu]

Sorry to hear about your friend. I was curious what the sentence would be for "Vehicular Manslaughter" in Kansas, so I looked around. Sounds like a stiff fine and four years probation.

Really amazing to see the wide range of how different states handle the crime. Iowa has a Mandatory 25 year sentence! Pretty brutal for something that is accidental. Nevada is 25 years to life. Most states are 1 year or less.

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com...nslaughter.htm

[Dayze]

sorry to hear dude. RIP.

I sold my RR in March, and hate hearing these things.
I rode all gear, all the time. Went down in '03 about 50mph; bruise ribs, and broken bone in my hand, but nothing much more than that. although, I had a dime sized chunk missing from the back of my helmet - would definitely be dead had I not been wearing it.

Although...I'd love to have a DRZ-400SM; kept all my gear for possible future bike.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Dayze

sorry to hear dude. RIP.

I sold my RR in March, and hate hearing these things.
I rode all gear, all the time. Went down in '03 about 50mph; bruise ribs, and broken bone in my hand, but nothing much more than that. although, I had a dime sized chunk missing from the back of my helmet - would definitely be dead had I not been wearing it.

Although...I'd love to have a DRZ-400SM; kept all my gear for possible future bike.

I'm not going to argue the helmet thing because opinions are what they are on it.

That said, I've never known someone to go down with one that didn't end up having a hell of a ding somewhere on that helmet that would've been in their dome instead. I've also never known someone to go down with a helmet that would ever dream of getting back on a bike without one.

The good news is that they still have the option...

PR is right though, the real cause here is the bitch in the cage that couldn't be an adult behind the wheel of a 2-ton projectile.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm not going to argue the helmet thing because opinions are what they are on it.

That said, I've never known someone to go down with one that didn't end up having a hell of a ding somewhere on that helmet that would've been in their dome instead. I've also never known someone to go down with a helmet that would ever dream of getting back on a bike without one.

The good news is that they still have the option...

PR is right though, the real cause here is the bitch in the cage that couldn't be an adult behind the wheel of a 2-ton projectile.

oh yeah, absolutely. I was just reflecting on my get-off when someone came across the yellow line etc; scary to think about w/out gear (personnally).

I definitely didn't want to take away from that idiot on a cell phone that caused the wreck etc.

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