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Old 09-18-2011, 07:06 PM  
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What else can you really say? This is a terrible football team.

What does it portend? That's a little harder to say.

1) I was willing to grant Haley some slack after the disastrous season opener, but seeing how this team responded, and how it has responded the last four games, he needs to be a dead man walking. The problem with Haley is the problem that happens with any hothead, whether it's Lou Piniella, Bobby Valentine, or Mangino: no one wants to play for, or listen to a prick when they are losing. If he could command respect it's one thing, but being a failed golfer who got into the NFL through daddy connections will kill him in a situation like this. It's the height of irony, really.

That team has a lot of quit in it.

2) Pioli may be one of the luckiest men in the NFL if this team is as bad as it looks right now. His own mismanagement of the team could literally cause the franchise to fall ass over teakettle into Andrew Luck, a pick for which he would take all the credit.

3) Romeo's defense is antiquated. You can't sit back and wait for a QB to pick you apart in a league where corners can't jam and you only have one legitimate pass rusher. This team needs to be shooting gaps and leaning on its corners, not expecting the linebackers and safeties to cover down the field or in the seams.

4) The telephone game is one of many things killing the offense. You can't say that multiple relays/filters is a good idea in a situation like that. It's one more potential area for failure. You don't need four sticks of RAM that have the same total capacity as two would.

5) The injuries have been disastrous, but you can't dodge that bug forever. I read an NFL preview on Grantland where Bill Barnwell pointed out the staggeringly low number of games lost by the Chiefs last year. This is the unlucky flip side of that coin. Given the schedule and the lack of focus, it's not the worst of all possible breaks to have it happen this year.

What can you say, really?

A lot of this stems from the 2009 offseason. By trading for Cassel in February, Pioli effectively passed on both Stafford and Sanchez. He hired Haley, a guy who looks daily more like the Reno airshow, and he made possibly the worst pick in Chiefs history at #3, and followed it up with maybe the worst draft in Chiefs history.

The ideology behind the roster construction is totally bankrupt, so it's hard to have much of any faith at this point.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:23 PM   #31
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I really don't think it was reasonable to suggest Detroit would've traded out of that pick. I think all that other stuff was posturing.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:23 PM   #32
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The question is where does the franchise go from here? There is a young core of good players that are locked up for a while. However,two of those players may never be the same with ACL injuries. The whole copycatting the patriot way seems like a fail. Its one thing to emulate what the pats have done, but Cassel was a bad decision.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:24 PM   #33
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Apologies. I googled it and portend is in deed a word. You are much smarter than me.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:26 PM   #34
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This could be taken two ways...
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:28 PM   #35
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The question is where does the franchise go from here? There is a young core of good players that are locked up for a while. However,two of those players may never be the same with ACL injuries. The whole copycatting the patriot way seems like a fail. Its one thing to emulate what the pats have done, but Cassel was a bad decision.
This isn't 1990. The odds they'll have a full recovery are somewhere around 95% from what I've read last week.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:28 PM   #36
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I really don't think it was reasonable to suggest Detroit would've traded out of that pick. I think all that other stuff was posturing.
I think they may well have been posturing wrt Curry negotiations, but if faced with the chance to gain an extra second and save $15+ mil, I think they would have seriously considered trading down. We can't really know, though.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:31 PM   #37
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I swear, if we are in position to draft Luck in April and pass or trade out of the pick, I might have to quit caring.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:31 PM   #38
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I actually know a number of Lions fans. I used to live around there, and several were apoplectic that they didn't draft Smith or Curry.
Sounds like they have alot in common with our fan base.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:36 PM   #39
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This occurred to me today, also. Our defense is far too passive. We have a pathetic pass rush and it is killing us. You simply cannot give offenses that much time in today's NFL. You cannot do it.
The 3-4 Defense is a giant failure. It's time to go to the 4-3. Hope fully they could at least stop the run with Powe's fat ass in there.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:38 PM   #41
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1) I was willing to grant Haley some slack after the disastrous season opener, but seeing how this team responded, and how it has responded the last four games, he needs to be a dead man walking. The problem with Haley is the problem that happens with any hothead, whether it's Lou Piniella, Bobby Valentine, or Mangino: no one wants to play for, or listen to a prick when they are losing. If he could command respect it's one thing, but being a failed golfer who got into the NFL through daddy connections will kill him in a situation like this. It's the height of irony, really.
Somone refresh my memory about Haley again and how he got hired. Pioli is related to Parcells? Haley and Pioli have both worked for Parcells in the past? Would Haley have gotten hired by another team as a HC eventually?? I dont remember any other teams interested in him besides us.....Haley was the only guy who never came from the Patriots tree, so he was always the "wildcard" in this whole plan.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:40 PM   #42
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Somone refresh my memory about Haley again and how he got hired. Pioli is related to Parcells? Haley and Pioli have both worked for Parcells in the past? Would Haley have gotten hired by another team as a HC eventually?? I dont remember any other teams interested in him besides us.....Haley was the only guy who never came from the Patriots tree, so he was always the "wildcard" in this whole plan.
Haley might have been hired by another team eventually.

Haley worked under Parcells with the Jets and Cowboys.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:41 PM   #43
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Amazingly enough, I don't get paid for my football decisions, and yet the results would largely be similar to someone making $5 mil a year.

I'll put it in other words. I'll bet you make a fraction of what Pioli does. It doesn't take terribly long to learn what you do, I have a basic understanding of what you do, I've taken a Basic Aviation course, and yet I'd guarantee the gulf in results between me flying and you flying is far beyond that of me picking players and a guy making $5 million.

Think about that for a second.

If you can't see that disconnect, I don't know what to tell you.
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Somone refresh my memory about Haley again and how he got hired. Pioli is related to Parcells? Haley and Pioli have both worked for Parcells in the past? Would Haley have gotten hired by another team as a HC eventually?? I dont remember any other teams interested in him besides us.....Haley was the only guy who never came from the Patriots tree, so he was always the "wildcard" in this whole plan.
Haley probably would have eventually been hired as another team, but I don't think that he would have been hired by a team without tree connections, as I don't think that he has a personality necessary to be a HC for guys making millions.
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