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Old 02-26-2012, 11:38 AM  
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Rumor: Redskins prepared to offer at least 4 picks for the #2 pick.

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Teams sources tell NBC Philadelphia's Howard Eskin the Redskins are prepared to offer the Rams their top three 2012 picks and "at least" their 2013 first-round pick to move up to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin III.

If true, it would be a positively Ricky Williams-ian haul for the Rams, who saw the value of their No. 2 pick increase even further on Sunday when Griffin was unofficially timed at a blazing 4.38 in the 40 at the Combine. Eskin's report comes two days after SI.com's Tony Pauline reported the Rams have engaged in "exploratory talks" with the Redskins about a swap. Source: Howard Eskin on Twitter
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:15 PM   #31
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They'd be stupid to trade their whole draft for just one player.

It's not worth it. I don't care how good he is. You don't sacrifice the whole draft.
This strategy has worked so well for us. It's been 19 years since we've had a playoff win. Do you understand that by the time next year rolls around it means TWO DECADES will have passed since we've last won a playoff game. TWO DECADES. Think about it. Do you remember what we had TWO DECADES ago when we last won a playoff game? That's right. A FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. Do you know what has happened in the NFL since our last playoff victory TWO DECADES ago? The NFL rules became a lot more friendly towards FRANCHISE QUARTERBACKS. You can keep your Tyson Jacksons and your Dexter McClusters and "wisely" horde those picks all you want. Me? I want me a FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK so that the Chiefs can win not only playoff games but a (few) Superbowl(s) as well.
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:47 PM   #32
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If we move up there will be player or players involved..

I still think if Flynn goes to Cleveland nobody is going up to 2 to draft him.
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:49 PM   #33
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This strategy has worked so well for us. It's been 19 years since we've had a playoff win. Do you understand that by the time next year rolls around it means TWO DECADES will have passed since we've last won a playoff game. TWO DECADES. Think about it. Do you remember what we had TWO DECADES ago when we last won a playoff game? That's right. A FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. Do you know what has happened in the NFL since our last playoff victory TWO DECADES ago? The NFL rules became a lot more friendly towards FRANCHISE QUARTERBACKS. You can keep your Tyson Jacksons and your Dexter McClusters and "wisely" horde those picks all you want. Me? I want me a FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK so that the Chiefs can win not only playoff games but a (few) Superbowl(s) as well.
Well said Elvis. Anyone who says they wouldn't trade their whole draft for Tom Brady are reeruns. Redskins essentially are ok, and they just need a franchise QB. Maybe some DBs, but they're fine after that.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:01 PM   #34
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Remember when some people on here wanted this team to win meaningless games?

They could have blown one season to be set for years.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:05 PM   #35
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Oh yeah whoever said Luck is comparable to Newton is reeruned. Cam wasn't even trying at the combine. Don't be reeruned, he knew for a fact he'd be #1 the overall pick and he is the type of person to not try because he knows he won't be punished for it.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:13 PM   #36
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:16 PM   #37
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If Snyder is willing to do it, then that pretty much seals the fact it is a bad idea. Dude is a habitual bad decision maker.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:18 PM   #38
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This strategy has worked so well for us. It's been 19 years since we've had a playoff win. Do you understand that by the time next year rolls around it means TWO DECADES will have passed since we've last won a playoff game. TWO DECADES. Think about it. Do you remember what we had TWO DECADES ago when we last won a playoff game? That's right. A FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. Do you know what has happened in the NFL since our last playoff victory TWO DECADES ago? The NFL rules became a lot more friendly towards FRANCHISE QUARTERBACKS. You can keep your Tyson Jacksons and your Dexter McClusters and "wisely" horde those picks all you want. Me? I want me a FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK so that the Chiefs can win not only playoff games but a (few) Superbowl(s) as well.
I understand your point. And I want a QB just as bad as you do.

But in no way am I fan of them trading the whole entire draft for just one player who doesn't assure anything. That's just insane. I still think the Chiefs can address the QB position someway, somehow. Whether its through Manning, Tannehill, in the 2nd round, or possibly next years first rounder?

I understand the importance of having a QB, but I think the rest of the team needs and the draft are just as equally important. If trading up for one player hinders their chances of improving the rest of the team for the future, then the risk is far too much of a burden. I'd rather see them improve the rest of the team while addressing the QB position at the same time.

The consequences of risky moves like these are way too hard to bear and can possibly set the franchise back? Thats why Im not inclined to seeing them making these type of moves. I'd rather see them take a chance on Manning instead. Yeah he is risk too. But the risk is far less severe. If he works out, great. If he doesn't, then at least they didn't sacrifice their whole future?

I more of a fan of seeing them taking a smart approach. Or, a more realistic approach...(i.e, sign Manning, and draft a QB either in the 1st or 2nd)...go from there and then build your team on top. Thats all Im saying.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:19 PM   #39
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Well said Elvis. Anyone who says they wouldn't trade their whole draft for Tom Brady are reeruns. Redskins essentially are ok, and they just need a franchise QB. Maybe some DBs, but they're fine after that.


Well it looks like 31 GM's not only didn't trade up for Brady, but they passed on him at least five times too.

If only it were half as easy to find a franchise QB as this place makes it sound.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:22 PM   #40
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The Chiefs are even more screwed if they give up and entire draft + some and the QB is a bust. All franchise QB's have a lot around them, something that typically doesn't happen if you don't have a draft.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:22 PM   #41
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:23 PM   #42
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This strategy has worked so well for us. It's been 19 years since we've had a playoff win. Do you understand that by the time next year rolls around it means TWO DECADES will have passed since we've last won a playoff game. TWO DECADES. Think about it. Do you remember what we had TWO DECADES ago when we last won a playoff game? That's right. A FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. Do you know what has happened in the NFL since our last playoff victory TWO DECADES ago? The NFL rules became a lot more friendly towards FRANCHISE QUARTERBACKS. You can keep your Tyson Jacksons and your Dexter McClusters and "wisely" horde those picks all you want. Me? I want me a FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK so that the Chiefs can win not only playoff games but a (few) Superbowl(s) as well.

Damn.

Can't argue with this.

Trent Green I'd say was a pseudo franchise QB for us, he did a pretty good job. He just wasn't a 'winner'.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:29 PM   #43
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Oh yeah whoever said Luck is comparable to Newton is reeruned. Cam wasn't even trying at the combine. Don't be reeruned, he knew for a fact he'd be #1 the overall pick and he is the type of person to not try because he knows he won't be punished for it.
Save my post.

Luck will have a better career than Newton.

I said it.

Suck it, bitch
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:35 PM   #44
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Remember when some people on here wanted this team to win meaningless games?

They could have blown one season to be set for years.

What about the fact that what fans want has no bearing on how the players play or the end result?
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:38 PM   #45
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