just more speculation about RGIII

[tooge]

Well, at least they mention the chiefs


Robert Griffin trade rumors already spinning out of control
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 28, 2012, 4:04 PM EST

APForget the Combine. Forget free agency. Robert Griffin III trade chatter dominates the NFL discussion these days.

And it’s still February.

Perhaps Rams COO Kevin Demoff is right: It’s getting less crazy to imagine a deal could be completed before free agency. We’ve read and heard an unprecedented amount of trade rumors about the No. 2 overall pick for this time of year.

Let’s go over the latest:

1. Mike Jones of the Washington Post writes the Redskins would give up the No. 6 overall pick and next year’s first round pick in addition to multiple picks in the mid-to-upper rounds of the draft. Consider this the starting point for negotiations.

The Rams are reportedly looking for a similar package to the one San Diego netted for Eli Manning: Two firsts (including the No. 4 overall pick), a third- and fifth-round pick. The Redskins sound ready to meet this demand.

2. Texas A&M prospect Ryan Tannehill is watching the Griffin talk closely. Jones believes the Redskins would take Tannehill at No. 6 overal if they can’t get Griffin.

3. Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer believes the Browns will ultimately have to give up three first-round picks in order to land Griffin. Do I hear four, Redskins? (This reminds us of a classic article by the Onion.)

4. Demoff told Peter King of SI.com that the Rams received a feeler from a team “you would never expect.” Does Kansas City count? If not, we’ll roll with Philadelphia as our irresponsible guess for a mystery team. Enter your pick below.

5. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch considers the Redskins the early favorite to land Griffin. This sounds true based on all the reports, plus Mike Shanahan’s close relationship with Jeff Fisher.

[stonedstooge]

Clark says; I've had some very good years since I inherited my team from my old man. **** you all

[mikey23545]

What the **** is wrong with some of you children? You do realize there's going to be another draft next year, right? This is not the last chance in recorded history to draft a QB in the draft.

Nobody on this board is against a reasonable trade to land a QB but this "let's trade every pick this year, next year, and the year after that and a package of Bowe, Carr, Charles, and Berry to draft RG III!" is just tiresomely stupid.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by mikey23545

What the **** is wrong with some of you children? You do realize there's going to be another draft next year, right? This is not the last chance in recorded history to draft a QB in the draft.

Nobody on this board is against a reasonable trade to land a QB but this "let's trade every pick this year, next year, and the year after that and a package of Bowe, Carr, Charles, and Berry to draft RG III!" is just tiresomely stupid.

lol, what makes you think we wont be again 7-9 and 9-7 and again be in a position with nothing but our dicks in our hands because we are picking 11-20 again? That is another year older. THen we can say, dont trade the whole draft, we can wait til 2014, for a qb. lol when does it end? The Chiefs fans have been waiting since 1970 for another franchise qb.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Well then....let's just draft scared and never do anything drastic. Great plan.

That's not what I'm saying and you know it. What I'm saying is that you don't give up an entire draft and then some for one player. That idea is simply idiotic. It has nothing to do with drafting scared...it's all about not over-reacting to the hype and having the brain to realize football is 11 on 11.
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[TRR]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

lol, what makes you think we wont be again 7-9 and 9-7 and again be in a position with nothing but our dicks in our hands because we are picking 11-20 again? That is another year older. THen we can say, dont trade the whole draft, we can wait til 2014, for a qb. lol when does it end? The Chiefs fans have been waiting since 1970 for another franchise qb.

I didn't realize franchise QB's were unavailable after pick 10 in the draft?? That sucks.
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[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by mikey23545

What the **** is wrong with some of you children? You do realize there's going to be another draft next year, right? This is not the last chance in recorded history to draft a QB in the draft.

Nobody on this board is against a reasonable trade to land a QB but this "let's trade every pick this year, next year, and the year after that and a package of Bowe, Carr, Charles, and Berry to draft RG III!" is just tiresomely stupid.

There's always next year, until it's next year, of course.

It's not entirely unreasonable to imagine moving up from 11 overall, and being averse to risk is not going to serve this franchise well in the long term.

Originally Posted by TRR

As you know, NFL players are one snap away from their careers being over.

or freak moped accident.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by TRR

I didn't realize franchise QB's were unavailable after pick 10 in the draft?? That sucks.
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They are, but its a bigger risk. All i am saying is 40 ****ing years! When does it stop. Since what mid 80's since we have even tried. I was just a damned kid watching Transformers after i got out of grade school. lol Its been a while.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

They are, but its a bigger risk. All i am saying is 40 ****ing years! When does it stop. Since what mid 80's since we have even tried. I was just a damned kid watching Transformers after i got out of grade school. lol Its been a while.

So drafting a QB between 11-20 is a risk but trading your entire draft+ for RG3 isn't?
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[Otter]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

They are, but its a bigger risk. All i am saying is 40 ****ing years! When does it stop. Since what mid 80's since we have even tried. I was just a damned kid watching Transformers after i got out of grade school. lol Its been a while.

You're forgetting the great Pat Barnes draft?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by TRR

So drafting a QB between 11-20 is a risk but trading your entire draft+ for RG3 isn't?
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Huge risk. If the QB pans out, however, it's well worth it.

Lock in on the prospect and don't hesitate. Not sure if RGIII is that guy, but I would certainly support the risk if Pioli believes he is.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by TRR

As you know, NFL players are one snap away from their careers being over. The time to trade your entire draft+ for one player is NEVER. There is way too much risk involved.
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Let's do nothing then, because it has worked so well for the past 40+ years.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Crush

Let's do nothing then, because it has worked so well for the past 40+ years.

That's not what I'm saying.
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[TRR]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Huge risk. If the QB pans out, however, it's well worth it.

Lock in on the prospect and don't hesitate. Not sure if RGIII is that guy, but I would certainly support the risk if Pioli believes he is.

He can't just "pan out.". He needs to win a few Super Bowls to be worth that type of gamble. You won't know unless you try, however I'm afraid the hype of RG3 is bigger than the payoff will be. Either way, an entire draft is not worth one player...Never will be.
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[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by TRR

He can't just "pan out.". He needs to win a few Super Bowls to be worth that type of gamble. You won't know unless you try, however I'm afraid the hype of RG3 is bigger than the payoff will be. Either way, an entire draft is not worth one player...Never will be.
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You're putting arbitrary distinctions on the value, much like posters who claim that, essentially, trading away a draft could set a franchise back "six years." Not five, not seven. Six.

The math is hard and fast on this fact.

If you can acquire a true franchise QB, there's damn near no price too steep. And this price sure as **** isn't one single draft, though I know we'd desperately miss all of the McClusters and Arenaseseses of the world.