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Old 07-08-2012, 07:31 PM  
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Would you pay Bowe $120-130M for 8 years?
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RT @ChiefsOrioles12 Do the Chiefs get Bowe signed long term before the 16th? ... Doubt it. Believed to be seeking big-time money.
Which means...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...act-with-lions
Johnson is scheduled to earn close to $130 million over the next eight seasons, including $113.5 million over the final seven years of the deal, league sources told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora.

The contract includes $4.5 million in an existing roster bonus that's due on the final year of his rookie deal.


The deal also includes $53 million in guaranteed money, with Johnson's $1.25 million base salary in 2012 guaranteed, and $36 million due in signing and option bonuses. According to La Canfora, $11.5 million in future salary is guaranteed for injury only.

The contract makes Johnson -- who scorched the NFL with 96 catches for 1,681 yards and 16 touchdowns in 2011 -- the highest-paid wide receiver in league history, surpassing the eight-year, $120 million deal that Larry Fitzgerald signed with the Arizona Cardinals before last season.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:01 PM   #31
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Last March, this was ESPN's list of Top Ten Receivers:

1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans
2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals
3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons
4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions
5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts
6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers
7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs
8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles
9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos
10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins

Only half (five out of ten) made the playoffs.

None even made the conference championship games, let alone the Super Bowl.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:01 PM   #32
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As I said earlier, the only player you overpay to keep is a franchise QB.

You pay Bowe what he's worth, but no way you should overpay him.

WRs are not going to win you SBs.

We aren't going to win a SB with Matt Cassel and Dwayne Bowe.

We could win a SB with a franchise QB and some other team's retread WR.
Well, we're not going to win a SB with Matt Cassel, period.

So using that logic, we shouldn't be paying anyone.

Personally, I don't think $10-12M a year average is overpaying him.

Especially when you consider what we're paying (and have paid) Cassel, Dorsey and Jackson.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:01 PM   #33
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They aren't serious about re-signing Bowe. If they were, the time to do it was last year. Pioli isn't stupid. They simply seem to feel he is expendable.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:03 PM   #34
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Last March, this was ESPN's list of Top Ten Receivers:

1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans
2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals
3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons
4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions
5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts
6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers
7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs
8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles
9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos
10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins

Only half (five out of ten) made the playoffs.

None even made the conference championship games, let alone the Super Bowl.
I have a feeling you're insinuating that you don't need an elite receiver to make the playoffs/win championships.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:03 PM   #35
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Last March, this was ESPN's list of Top Ten Receivers:

1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans
2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals
3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons
4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions
5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts
6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers
7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs
8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles
9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos
10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins

Only half (five out of ten) made the playoffs.

None even made the conference championship games, let alone the Super Bowl.
Huh? CJ should be #1, and definitely NOT below White. LOL
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:03 PM   #36
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They aren't serious about re-signing Bowe. If they were, the time to do it was last year. Pioli isn't stupid. They simply seem to feel he is expendable.
Maybe Pioli should re-watch the 2nd half of the Denver game without Bowe.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:04 PM   #37
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They aren't serious about re-signing Bowe. If they were, the time to do it was last year. Pioli isn't stupid. They simply seem to feel he is expendable.
Sadly, I tend to agree with this.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:04 PM   #38
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Well, we're not going to win a SB with Matt Cassel, period.

So using that logic, we shouldn't be paying anyone.

Personally, I don't think $10-12M a year average is overpaying him.

Especially when you consider what we're paying (and have paid) Cassel, Dorsey and Jackson.
I disagree that 10-12 mil a year is overpaying.

I'd give him 9-10, but not up to 12.

And justifying overpaying him because we are overpaying Cassel and Jackson isn't really justification.

If you do 1 or 2 stupid things, does that justify doing another stupid thing?
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:04 PM   #39
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Last March, this was ESPN's list of Top Ten Receivers:

1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans
2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals
3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons
4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions
5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts
6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers
7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs
8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles
9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos
10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins

Only half (five out of ten) made the playoffs.

None even made the conference championship games, let alone the Super Bowl.
which doesn't actually mean anything...

so what's your point, that every player on those teams that didn't make the superbowl is non-essential, or just WRs for some random reason?
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Wouldn't be surprised at all to see 2 of those wrs in the SB this year.



I'm calling it here. Lions vs. Texans SB.
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They aren't serious about re-signing Bowe. If they were, the time to do it was last year. Pioli isn't stupid. They simply seem to feel he is expendable.
That's pure speculation.
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I disagree that 10-12 mil a year is overpaying.

I'd give him 9-10, but not up to 12.

And justifying overpaying him because we are overpaying Cassel and Jackson isn't really justification.

If you do 1 or 2 stupid things, does that justify doing another stupid thing?

His play on the field justifies that level of pay.

Cassel and Jackson are just examples of where this organization is wasting money that could go to a deserving player.
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That's pure speculation.
If Baldwin lights it up this season, this could very well be the case.
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Huh? CJ should be #1, and definitely NOT below White. LOL
Andre, Calvin and Larry you could interchange, but no way Roddy White is better. No team would take White over CJ.
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No way in hell. He's not worth anywhere near $100 million.
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