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Old 07-13-2012, 04:11 PM  
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I live in Kansas and just went to the liquor store. The store owners have their 12-ish year old daughter checking customers out. That's completely illegal. Should I be a dick and turn them in... or just let it ride?
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:43 PM   #31
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You're not incredbily high and accidentally tried buying booze at a convenient store did you?

Like, maybe a Valero or something.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:44 PM   #32
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Why would you turn them in?
no shit.

Needs to mind his own ****ing business.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:44 PM   #33
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Minimum Age of Seller Requirements

What are minimum-age-of-seller policies and how do they work?

Age of seller policies require that servers and clerks at alcohol establishments be of a minimum age in order to serve or sell alcohol.

State laws specify a minimum age for employees who sell or serve alcoholic beverages in a licensed establishment. In most states, seller/servers of alcohol must be at least 18 but younger employees may be allowed to stock coolers with alcohol, bag purchased alcohol, or clear alcoholic beverages from tables. (1)

A few states (for example, Alabama, Alaska, Indiana, Nevada, New Mexico, and Oklahoma) require that servers in bars be of legal minimum drinking age of 21. (1)
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:45 PM   #34
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Pretty sure he is right and that is the actual law.
You're probably right, but I'm just trying to figure out how it would actually be worded. Kids can work a cash register in a family-owned store at any age as far as I know, so that gets around the age-16 minimum there.

In a liquor store, it'd certainly be illegal for a 12 year old to be operating the store, but there's nothing to say that a 12 year old can't be IN the store.

So let's say that a parent is literally standing there watching the entire process from two feet away, but the kid takes the money and puts it in the drawer. Is that the part that's illegal?

Anyway, doesn't really matter in terms of answering the question.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:45 PM   #35
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A retail liquor store licensee must have been a United States citizen for 10 years, a resident of Kansas for 4 years, must never have been convicted of a felony, a crime of moral turpitude, a liquor law violation, must never have had a prior license revocation, must be 21 years of age, must not be in the business of law enforcement, and the licensee's spouse must meet the same qualifications.[2] Retail liquor stores may sell beer, wine, spirits, and nonalcoholic malt beverages.[2] They may be licensed CMB retailers as well.[2]

Sales are prohibited on Easter and Christmas.[2] Sales are prohibited between 11:00 PM and 9:00 AM.[2] Cities and counties which allow off-premises sales are prohibited from allowing Sunday liquor sales after 8:00 PM, but may not require retail liquor stores to close before 8:00 PM on other days.[2] No sales are allowed at less than cost.[2] All employees must be at least 21 years of age.[2]

A retail liquor store must be in an area zoned for commercial use, cannot be located within 200 feet (61 m) of a school, college, or church, and cannot have an indoor entrance or an opening which connects with another business.[2] Except for Kansas Lottery tickets (which incidentally can be sold to 18-year-olds), it may not sell any product besides liquor, products or materials included by the manufacturer in the package, and nonalcoholic malt beverages.[2] It may not provide any entertainment, including pinball machines.[2] A prohibition against offering customers free samples of liquor was repealed as of July 1, 2012.[8]
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:47 PM   #36
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Minimum Age of Seller Requirements

What are minimum-age-of-seller policies and how do they work?

Age of seller policies require that servers and clerks at alcohol establishments be of a minimum age in order to serve or sell alcohol.

State laws specify a minimum age for employees who sell or serve alcoholic beverages in a licensed establishment. In most states, seller/servers of alcohol must be at least 18 but younger employees may be allowed to stock coolers with alcohol, bag purchased alcohol, or clear alcoholic beverages from tables. (1)

A few states (for example, Alabama, Alaska, Indiana, Nevada, New Mexico, and Oklahoma) require that servers in bars be of legal minimum drinking age of 21. (1)
Huh. So the kid can put beer on a shelf, but can't take the money?
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:47 PM   #37
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You're probably right, but I'm just trying to figure out how it would actually be worded. Kids can work a cash register in a family-owned store at any age as far as I know, so that gets around the age-16 minimum there.

In a liquor store, it'd certainly be illegal for a 12 year old to be operating the store, but there's nothing to say that a 12 year old can't be IN the store.

So let's say that a parent is literally standing there watching the entire process from two feet away, but the kid takes the money and puts it in the drawer. Is that the part that's illegal?

Anyway, doesn't really matter in terms of answering the question.
yeah this is how I saw it.. I guess we don't have enough info. I would have a problem if a 12 year old was alone running the store and a parent wasn't there on site supervising to some extent.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:48 PM   #38
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Shop there often?
I think you stake the place out for a while to see what's really going on there.

If the parents are out back smoking meth while they have their child sell the liquor then yeah you should maybe make a call. But if the the girl is just every now and then called upon to run the register then Maybe they were eating or something so she was filling in for a few minutes? Would you want to call the cops for that?
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:49 PM   #39
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I wouldn't call the cops. I'll just put it that way. I mean, if you were philosophically opposed why did you complete the transaction?
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:51 PM   #40
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I might say something like, "hey, it's none of my business, but if the wrong person walked in and saw your kid selling alcohol, you could get into deep shit." ...and leave it at that.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:53 PM   #41
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Old 07-13-2012, 05:00 PM   #42
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Old 07-13-2012, 05:09 PM   #44
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wow, ya turn them in. Someone is gonna rob that little girl and maybe even kill her for money since it's such an easy target. I would totally turn them in just for the kids safety.
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Old 07-13-2012, 05:10 PM   #45
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Why would you even consider calling the po-po over this?
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