Bluejays got RA Dickey

[The Bad Guy]

As a Mets fan, I'm happy with the return.

Mets needed a future catcher in the worst way and the pitcher is supposed to be a high ceiling #2 type player.

It's a good haul for a 38 year old.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

As a Mets fan, I'm happy with the return.

Mets needed a future catcher in the worst way and the pitcher is supposed to be a high ceiling #2 type player.

It's a good haul for a 38 year old.

No question it's a great deal for the Mets. They weren't winning any time soon with Dickey. It's the perfect time for the Jays to make a move like this, though.

[Prison Bitch]

The Jays trade gets better reviews because people think they're in a better position to win than the Royals are, given the trade with Florida last month.

[Rugby Thompson]

Not like the jays are gonna do anything, the fanbase here in toronto sucks.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Rugby Thompson

Not like the jays are gonna do anything, the fanbase here in toronto sucks.

Actually, the fanbase in Toronto is a sleeping giant. If they win (which they haven't done in 20 years), there's no reason to think it couldn't be like it was 20 years ago when they were setting attendance records and spending huge money.

[Rugby Thompson]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Actually, the fanbase in Toronto is a sleeping giant. If they win (which they haven't done in 20 years), there's no reason to think it couldn't be like it was 20 years ago when they were setting attendance records and spending huge money.

I live here, I know how it is. We get attendance the home opener then every one hops off, no one is dedicated to this team because everyone is too focused on hockey.

Toronto is a horrible place to play pro sports

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Rugby Thompson

I live here, I know how it is. We get attendance the home opener then every one hops off, no one is dedicated to this team because everyone is too focused on hockey.

That's nice. I suspect I lived there longer than you have and have a better idea of the sleeping giant that is the Blue Jays fanbase than you (they get better television numbers than any organization in baseball despite not having a playoff team in 20 years).

[Rugby Thompson]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Actually, the fanbase in Toronto is a sleeping giant. If they win (which they haven't done in 20 years), there's no reason to think it couldn't be like it was 20 years ago when they were setting attendance records and spending huge money.

I live here, I know how it is. We get attendance the home opener then every one hops off, no one is dedicated to this team because everyone is too focused on hockey.

Toronto is a horrible place to play pro sports

[BlackHelicopters]

The Blue Jays are spending a ton of money to finish in fourth place in the AL East.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

The Blue Jays are spending a ton of money to finish in fourth place in the AL East.

The Jays will likely be the prohibitive favorite to win the American League East this season.

Best pitching staff. Best offense.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

The Jays will likely be the prohibitive favorite to win the American League East this season.

Best pitching staff. Best offense.

I agree. On paper, they're the best team now in the division. I probably wouldn't have said that before this deal (still NYY perhaps), but this pushes them over the top. I've been asking for these kind of moves and this kind of effort to win for over a decade now and it's finally happening.

Also Anthopoulos said this at the conference call tonight...sounds like it's his plan to extend him as I figured.

Mike Cormack @MikeCormack
#bluejays GM Anthopoulos: "Hopefully a guy like Josh Johnson can be part of (a multi-year run) that too going forward."

[Shox]

Dickey just had his career year. He will never reproduce the year he had in 2012.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Shox

Dickey just had his career year. He will never reproduce the year he had in 2012.

I remember when people said that about Jose Bautista's 2010. And then 2011 happened.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by Shox

Dickey just had his career year. He will never reproduce the year he had in 2012.

Dude,

Step back and think about this for a second.

Look back at his last 3 years, the guy is a fine wine and seems to get better with age. His record is 39-28. The guy had averaged 200 innings pitched, gives up under 3 runs per game and led the league in strikeouts last year.

He may or may not have a season like last year but he seems like a guy that has "got it" late in his career. He's a late bloomer no question. He has perfected the knuckleball pitch and chances are that will prolong his career.

Most knuckleballers pitch well into their 40s anyway. Less velocity thrown behind that pitch which will also mean less stress, inflammation and wear and tear on the muscles, ligaments, tendons, joints in the arm. That's his pitch 70% of the time. He will pitch into his 40s and he really doesn't have to be a CY young candidate just pitch well and he will do that.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Shox

Dickey just had his career year. He will never reproduce the year he had in 2012.

Except he's had three good years in a row and knuckleballers tend to pitch effectively well into their 40's.