Let's talk about the ****ing Bills.

[Direckshun]

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:

• The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
• He is still Kyle Orton.

That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.

[Chiefs4TheWin]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Oh good lord

[TimBone]

Did Clay actually pull out an Orton avatar?

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by TimBone

Did Clay actually pull out an Orton avatar?

The man is on his game.

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

That is ****ing terrifying.

its like old monty Python stuff

[Direckshun]

Better just bookmark this site for the week.

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/buff...-buffalo-bills

Comparing the hot streaks of Kyle Orton and Ryan Fitzpatrick in Buffalo
A small percentage of Bills fans are already mulling over the idea of a new contract for Kyle Orton. Is that as crazy as it seems? Yes... but maybe only for now.
By Brian Galliford @BrianGalliford
on Oct 29 2014, 3:00p

Kyle Orton is in the midst of the strongest stretch of quarterback play that the Buffalo Bills have seen since the first seven weeks of the 2011 season.

In his four games as the starter since taking over for EJ Manuel in Week 5, Orton and the Bills have a 3-1 record. The veteran is completing 67.4 percent of his passes (95 completions on 141 attempts) at 8.0 yards per attempt (1,128 yards total), with nine touchdowns, three interceptions, and a quarterback rating of 104.0. That rating is the sixth-best in the NFL among quarterbacks that have attempted at least 100 passes this season. He has also taken 17 sacks and lost two fumbles.

Orton, of course, only signed with the Bills 62 days ago today, inking a lucrative two-year contract on August 29, just prior to the start of the regular season. Because the second year of that deal (i.e. the 2015 season) is a player option - meaning that Orton can void it and hit unrestricted free agency next spring - some Bills fans have already begun campaigning for Orton to receive a new deal in Buffalo. (Yes, that is seriously happening.)

That, too, is something that has not happened for the Bills since 2011.

Ryan Fitzpatrick was the AFC Offensive Player of the Month in September of 2011, and played the best football of his professional career in leading the Bills to a 5-2 start that season. In those seven games, he completed 67.7 percent of his passes (155 of 229) at 7.6 yards per attempt (1,739 yards) with 14 touchdowns, seven interceptions, and a quarterback rating of 97.8. He also lost one fumble and took a mere eight sacks in that time frame.

2011 also happened to be a contract year for Fitzpatrick; after his hot start, the Bills moved pretty quickly to lock him up long-term with a six-year, $59 million contract extension.

The circumstances between then and now are, of course, different. Fitzpatrick had not yet turned 29 when he signed his contract, while Orton is a couple of weeks away from turning 32. Orton has the option of staying in Buffalo next season at a $5.5 million salary, whereas Fitzpatrick would have simply become an unrestricted free agent. The sample size with Orton is also significantly smaller; Fitzpatrick had been in Buffalo for parts of three seasons at the time he signed, whereas again, Orton has barely been in town for two months.

Perhaps the most important difference: the presence of Manuel, a talented prospect in his own right that the team can still try to sell as the future of the position. When Fitzpatrick signed, he became the future. That deal made him the franchise quarterback.

For now, the idea that Orton might be a player the Bills want to lock in beyond the 2015 season is a nascent one, and far less urgent than the Fitzpatrick scenario in 2011 by a large margin. For that reason, it's probably a bit silly to even be bringing it up in a bye week post. Still... this is probably an idea that should be in the back of the minds of Bills fans. There are no guarantees with Manuel, and even with the disaster that was the Fitzpatrick contract fresh in our memories, that's a situation that may come up again if Orton can continue at or near his current level of play.

[Direckshun]

Orton's taken 17 sacks in 4 games.

17 sacks. In 4 games.

Houston, what do you have to say about that?

Spoiler!

[mcaj22]

Id feel a lot better if we had a healthy Berry, Fleming, Owens, Mays for this match up

I dont trust our soft MLBers or Cooper or Smith at all against the Bills. All a liability

[Hammock Parties]

Anyone got PFF #s on the Bills OTs?

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Id feel a lot better if we had a healthy Berry, Fleming, Owens, Mays for this match up

I dont trust our soft MLBers or Cooper or Smith at all against the Bills. All a liability

I think they probably slap Sean Smith on Watkins all day, and maybe bracket him.

The Bills have a decent cast of other weapons, but Chandler, Woods, and Mike Williams shouldn't be enough to beat the Chiefs if they're able to put the clamps on Watkins.

[Three7s]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Orton's taken 17 sacks in 4 games.

17 sacks. In 4 games.

Houston, what do you have to say about that?

Spoiler!

I guess that explains why Bills fans are saying the O-line sucks.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Orton's taken 17 sacks in 4 games.

17 sacks. In 4 games.

Houston, what do you have to say about that?

Spoiler!

Oh, my.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Dareus has 7 sacks.

Combined with Kyle Williams, they are on pace to have 20 sacks from their starting DT tandem this season.

That is insane.

Dareus is an exceptional player. We should be concerned. But let's talk about "outliers." 5 of Dareus' 7 sacks came against two teams: the Lions and the Vikings.

Just for context, Matt Stafford and Tedy Bridgewater are both on pace to take 48 sacks for the season. Stafford generally hovers around 30 sacks so his pass pro has been particularly terrible this year. Stafford has been sacked the most this year (Bridgewater, if you project him to 8 games, would be tied for first).

[bricks]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Orton's taken 17 sacks in 4 games.

17 sacks. In 4 games.

Houston, what do you have to say about that?

Spoiler!

Houston don't have a problem

[Direckshun]

Might not have to worry about Mike Williams at all:

WR Mike Williams: Over the Bills' last four games, Williams' role has diminished significantly. In Weeks 3 and 4, Williams played 60.7 percent of snaps as the team's third receiver. Since then, he played 36.6 percent of snaps against Detroit, losing snaps to both Marquise Goodwin and Chris Hogan, then was inactive entirely against New England. He logged only a combined 17 snaps on offense (and 12 on special teams, mostly on the punt return unit) in wins over Minnesota and New York. When Goodwin and special teams ace Marcus Easley are healthy and return to the lineup, it's expected that Williams will once again return to healthy scratch territory.

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Orton's taken 17 sacks in 4 games.

17 sacks. In 4 games.

Houston, what do you have to say about that?

Spoiler!

That's the first thing I noticed in that article.