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Old 11-05-2015, 12:22 PM  
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Matt Stafford?
NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports Matthew Stafford's Lions future beyond 2015 is "very much in doubt."

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/662329766633193472

Lions fired GM Martin Mayhew and team president Tom Lewand.

There has been no word on the status of coach Jim Caldwell, who is also on the hot seat. Mayhew took over GM duties during the Lions' 0-16 2008 campaign. He drafted Matthew Stafford as the first overall pick in 2009 and landed Ndamukong Suh in the first round a year later. Mayhew's more recent selections, such as Kyle Van Noy in the second round a year ago and Darius Slay in 2013, have not fared as well, and the departure of Suh and 2011 first-round pick Nick Fairley in free agency this offseason left the defense lacking talent. Despite the struggles this year, the Lions made the playoffs twice in Mayhew's tenure, the only two playoff berths for the franchise since 1999. With the man who drafted him now out of the picture, Stafford's future with the team is uncertain. He is owed a $17 million base salary next season, and Detroit could save $11.5 million against the 2016 cap by moving him.

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Old 11-05-2015, 03:52 PM   #31
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I'd rather keep Smith than have Stafford honestly.

Stafford is absolutely terrible. Even in that 5000 yard year he was average. 75% of his career earnings should go to Calvin Johnson.
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Old 11-05-2015, 04:08 PM   #32
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I'd rather keep Smith than have Stafford honestly.

Stafford is absolutely terrible. Even in that 5000 yard year he was average. 75% of his career earnings should go to Calvin Johnson.
Average? 5000 yards, 41 TDs, 63% passing and a 60 QBR is a bit better than average. I wouldn't trade picks for him, but I'd trade AS for him in a second.

Stafford basically had back to back 5000 yd seasons in 11 and 12.
CJ had about 1700 and 2000 yrds in those seasons. He played a big part, but no, not 75% worth.
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Old 11-05-2015, 04:13 PM   #33
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Stafford basically had back to back 5000 yd seasons in 11 and 12.
CJ had about 1700 and 2000 yrds in those seasons. He played a big part, but no, not 75% worth.
And at the times he wasn't catching passes, he was attracting so much attention that he might as well have been catching passes.

The thing to me is...Stafford like Smith hasn't shown the ability to win games by himself really. Maybe a game here and there but thats it. But he has shown a lot of ability to lose games by himself.
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Old 11-05-2015, 04:15 PM   #34
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And at the times he wasn't catching passes, he was attracting so much attention that he might as well have been catching passes.

The thing to me is...Stafford like Smith hasn't shown the ability to win games by himself really. Maybe a game here and there but thats it. But he has shown a lot of ability to lose games by himself.
Matt Stafford has 14 4th quarter comebacks and 18 game winning drives. Not a point of argument....just stating a fact.
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Old 11-05-2015, 04:40 PM   #36
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Average? 5000 yards, 41 TDs, 63% passing and a 60 QBR is a bit better than average. I wouldn't trade picks for him, but I'd trade AS for him in a second.

Stafford basically had back to back 5000 yd seasons in 11 and 12.
CJ had about 1700 and 2000 yrds in those seasons. He played a big part, but no, not 75% worth.
Stats can lie especially yardage totals. Id like to know how much of that yardage was 'garbage time' yards. How much of it was just Stafford getting more attempts per game because Detroits running game generally sucked.
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Stats can lie especially yardage totals. Id like to know how much of that yardage was 'garbage time' yards. How much of it was just Stafford getting more attempts per game because Detroits running game generally sucked.
Hope you do that with every QB then.
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Matt Stafford has 14 4th quarter comebacks and 18 game winning drives. Not a point of argument....just stating a fact.
How many of those are necessitated by the fact that he threw multiple interceptions in the game?

Game winning drives and comebacks are a misleading stats to me because they don't account for what the player did in the 3 quarters prior.
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Stats can lie especially yardage totals. Id like to know how much of that yardage was 'garbage time' yards. How much of it was just Stafford getting more attempts per game because Detroits running game generally sucked.
The year he got 5000 yards I believe he had the most pass attempts in NFL history
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Stafford would fit the KC profile great. Save you guys from drafting a QB since that is against he religion there.
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How many of those are necessitated by the fact that he threw multiple interceptions in the game?

Game winning drives and comebacks are a misleading stats to me because they don't account for what the player did in the 3 quarters prior.
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So game winning drives only count when the defense lets you down? Or maybe it's just when the running game is shit?
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Stafford would fit the KC profile great. Save you guys from drafting a QB since that is against he religion there.
Nice try.

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25 games with multiple interceptions. 40 games with 60% or less completion. He's not good.
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So game winning drives only count when the defense lets you down? Or maybe it's just when the running game is shit?
No I dont give people credit for cleaning up messes that they made .
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Stafford is not as bad as you seem to think.
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