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Deberg_1990 · 11-02-2016, 12:52 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/college-bas...entley-at-lsu/

In a new documentary that will air at 9 p.m. ET on Friday on Showtime, Philadelphia 76ers rookie and No. 1 pick in the 2016 draft Ben Simmons rips the NCAA for what he feels is exploitation of him in preventing him from being paid for his play at LSU. Transcript from ESPN:

"The NCAA is really f---ed up," Simmons said on "One and Done," a film that will air on Showtime on Friday night. "Everybody's making money except the players. We're the ones waking up early as hell to be the best teams and do everything they want us to do and then the players get nothing. They say education, but if I'm there for a year, I can't get much education."

"[Coach] Jones said, 'We need to make up a punishment if you miss another class,'" Simmons said. "I missed my next class about preparing for better study habits. I'm going to the NBA next season. Why bull---- if it's not going to help me?"

"The NCAA is messed up," Simmons said. "I don't have a voice. ... I don't get paid to do it. Don't say I'm an amateur and make me take pictures and sign stuff and go make hundreds of thousands of millions of dollars off one person. ... I'm going off on the NCAA. Just wait, just wait. I can be a voice for everybody in college. I'm here because I have to be here [at LSU]. ... I can't get a degree in two semesters, so it's kind of pointless. I feel like I'm wasting time."

BWillie · 11-02-2016, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

True, no one is forcing the kids to go to college and I certainly wouldn't want to force the schools to pay their players.

What I would like is for schools to be allowed to pay their players if they choose to do so. Soon enough, they'd all be doing it or their cash cows would quickly dry up and give no more free milk.

That I suppose is the option of a school or the NCAA, but if that is the case, they sure as hell better make a division solely for these types of schools, which would be a very few. Many basketball programs, even some D1 bball programs, do not make money directly.

POND_OF_RED · 11-02-2016, 04:14 PM

Slowly people are realizing that overseas is the best option. Be careful what you wish for though. Without the talent in the NCAA it will just be more and more teams playing sloppy ass basketball, passing the ball around for 30 seconds and jacking up terrible shots. It's what most NCAA games are looking like nowadays anyways. Without the superstar athletes, the NCAA will not be too enjoyable to watch

ClevelandBronco · 11-02-2016, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

That I suppose is the option of a school or the NCAA, but if that is the case, they sure as hell better make a division solely for these types of schools, which would be a very few. Many basketball programs, even some D1 bball programs, do not make money directly.

It's certainly not an option currently.

mcaj22 · 11-02-2016, 04:24 PM

LOL at people in this thread thinking Ben Simmons is from the ghetto or a hood rat. Like, just wow.

jettio · 11-02-2016, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

People like to watch talented players. No talent, no fans in the stand. Looks like Simmons generated a ton of money in just one year.

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rou...c8965b490.html

The LSU men’s basketball team posted the third-highest increase in the country in paid attendance from the 2014-15 season to the 2015-16 season, according to figures released Wednesday by the NCAA.

The Tigers averaged 11,382 fans for 18 games at the Pete Maravich Assembly Center in 2015-16 for an increase of 2,485 per game over their 2014-15 figure of 8,897 a game.

This past season, four LSU games were classified as sellouts with at least 13,215 tickets sold.

LSU finished third behind Maryland, which had an increase of 5,169 paid attendance, and Alabama, who improved by 2,934 over the previous season.

LSU, which ranked 35th in the nation in paid attendance per game, was one of 43 Division I schools to average more than 10,000 tickets sold this season.

The Southeastern Conference finished second in the country in total average attendance for its 240 games at 11,144, an increase of 325 from last season.

Wow. A lot of people wasted their time and money.

Good luck to the Sixers.

Spott · 11-02-2016, 04:35 PM

I highly doubt that most of the athletes at any major division one programs get a real education while they are there.

ClevelandBronco · 11-02-2016, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott

I highly doubt that most of the athletes at any major division one programs get a real education while they are there.

I highly doubt that a fair number of the non-athletes at any major division one programs get a real education while they are there.

Red Dawg · 11-02-2016, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

He needs to blame the NBA. The NCAA has no control over that. NBA needs to make it like the NFL in that you need to have been in college for 3 years. Either that, or don't require it at all. This one and done stuff is not really good for NCAA, either.

College is not part of it. You have to 3 years removed from high school.

**Buehler445** · 11-02-2016, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He won't; he's talented as hell.

But he also quit on his team halfway through the season and would take off entire games. In a sport where one player can literally make a 20 win difference, he was so disinterested that LSU couldn't even make it to the NCAA tournament despite having 12 gimme games in conference play and another 12-14 gimmes in non-con.

The guy is unquestionably an asshole but in the NBA, his combination of size, quickness and exceptional court vision is going to overcome being a doucherocket 99 times out of 100.

Errrr ummmm heeee kind of ummmm got kind of drafted by Philly. And has a broken foot. Overcoming being a doucherocket isn't the only thing he has to overcome.

**RealSNR** · 11-02-2016, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Dude is handed a fortune and complains about how it happened. I am quite certain Wales and Australia have 'hoods.

Well, this kid didn't grow up in those hoods. How many kids from the ghetto do you know who grow up in families rich enough to live in Wales, move to Australia, then move to the United States?

dj56dt58 · 11-02-2016, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He won't; he's talented as hell.

But he also quit on his team halfway through the season and would take off entire games. In a sport where one player can literally make a 20 win difference, he was so disinterested that LSU couldn't even make it to the NCAA tournament despite having 12 gimme games in conference play and another 12-14 gimmes in non-con.

The guy is unquestionably an asshole but in the NBA, his combination of size, quickness and exceptional court vision is going to overcome being a doucherocket 99 times out of 100.

Takes more than that at this level

-King- · 11-03-2016, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Dude is handed a fortune and complains about how it happened. I am quite certain Wales and Australia have 'hoods.

How exactly was he handed a fortune?
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-King- · 11-03-2016, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Colleges and the NCAA shouldn't have to pay a player anything. The athlete goes in KNOWING they will NOT get paid. They know this. It's been this way for eons. Nobody is forcing anyone to go to college. They can go play euro ball and MAKE money if they want. That is up to them. None of this is the NCAA's fault. The only thing I believe that these kids should be allowed to do is profit of of their likeness when they are in college OUTSIDE of classes and practice. If they want to get paid to appear on Around the Horn, they should be able to. If they wish to sign endorsement deals, they should be able to. If they want to be paid for an appearance or to sign autographs, they should be able to. But the NCAA and school owe the student athlete nothing beyond an athletic scholarship and STIPEND that many get above and beyond room and board already.

If an institution is literally making BILLIONS of you, you should be paid. And going out of the country to play ball is an option but let's not act like forcing an 18 year old kid to leave the country just to earn money is a great idea.

These guys can't even get side jobs to earn money. How the **** is that fair?
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**Lzen** · 11-03-2016, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

College is not part of it. You have to 3 years removed from high school.

You are correct. My point is still valid.

**Lzen** · 11-03-2016, 08:33 AM

As for the NCAA paying players, I don't like that idea because I think it opens up a lot more opportunities for corruption. Perhaps an account or trust that pays players royalties for everything sold that has their name and they can't access it until they leave would be an idea.

11-02-2016, 12:52 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $324454	#1 NBA pick Ben Simmons rips the NCAA and the 'one and done' system http://www.cbssports.com/college-bas...entley-at-lsu/ In a new documentary that will air at 9 p.m. ET on Friday on Showtime, Philadelphia 76ers rookie and No. 1 pick in the 2016 draft Ben Simmons rips the NCAA for what he feels is exploitation of him in preventing him from being paid for his play at LSU. Transcript from ESPN: "The NCAA is really f---ed up," Simmons said on "One and Done," a film that will air on Showtime on Friday night. "Everybody's making money except the players. We're the ones waking up early as hell to be the best teams and do everything they want us to do and then the players get nothing. They say education, but if I'm there for a year, I can't get much education." "[Coach] Jones said, 'We need to make up a punishment if you miss another class,'" Simmons said. "I missed my next class about preparing for better study habits. I'm going to the NBA next season. Why bull---- if it's not going to help me?" "The NCAA is messed up," Simmons said. "I don't have a voice. ... I don't get paid to do it. Don't say I'm an amateur and make me take pictures and sign stuff and go make hundreds of thousands of millions of dollars off one person. ... I'm going off on the NCAA. Just wait, just wait. I can be a voice for everybody in college. I'm here because I have to be here [at LSU]. ... I can't get a degree in two semesters, so it's kind of pointless. I feel like I'm wasting time."
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